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    Question Titanium?

    Simple question, titanium? I know fighter airplanes are made from it, I even have a road bike, the frame is made out of it. Razors? Anybody knows, I am no metallurgist, hec I don't even know how to spell it. Do they make razors out of this metal? Juan.

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    Titanium is strong, lightweight, and durable but it can not be heat hardened and is only about a 45 on the Rockwell C scale. It is too soft for any type of blade but makes good handles.

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    What are you doing up at this hour, you and I should be in bed by this time. Juan.

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    Anything at all to make a buck, does not mean that Enigizer corp's Shick Quatro Titanium and Enigizer Shick Quatro Titanium Trimmer have any of the stuff in it, personally I think its all plastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Crowley View Post
    Titanium is strong, lightweight, and durable but it can not be heat hardened and is only about a 45 on the Rockwell C scale. It is too soft for any type of blade but makes good handles.
    Eh? MissionKnives.com, The Toughest Knives in the World! and root around a little.

    Comparing a Rockwell value between steel and a titanium blade is a real apples vs. oranges problem. The titanium is much more abrasion resistant than steel so the comparison of hardness values does little to determine how well, or how long they will cut. Titanium is capable of heat treatment. A very tough knife, but true, probably not a very good razor.

    The titanium coatings used on cutting tools is a deposition layer of titanium nitride or carbide, sometimes even boron. Rc 80, very hard stuff, not just plastics.
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    I guess when you see Titanium in all those pretty colors that's the result of heat treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    I guess when you see Titanium in all those pretty colors that's the result of heat treatment.
    Color oxides will form with heating, but for the most part, those colors are formed as a result of an electrolyte bath (even coca cola) and electric current. The colors result from varying the voltage and the equipment is really kind of easy to build at home.

    I can't beat the old saw that a picture is worth lots of words. The following is Randy McDaniel, a hellofa blacksmith.

    YouTube - Blacksmith Forged Titanium Knife


    and, (titanium anodizing)

    YouTube - Anodizing Titanium


    And then to run this subject out into the fringes, Tom Ferry, Oregon/WA, has made a pattern welded titanium material (timascus). That gets really interesting since the welding temperatures are critical and it has to be done in the absence of oxygen. Think of a magnesium fire on steroids.
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    very interesting mr. blue
    thanks for posting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Blue View Post
    Eh? MissionKnives.com, The Toughest Knives in the World! and root around a little.

    Comparing a Rockwell value between steel and a titanium blade is a real apples vs. oranges problem. The titanium is much more abrasion resistant than steel so the comparison of hardness values does little to determine how well, or how long they will cut. Titanium is capable of heat treatment. A very tough knife, but true, probably not a very good razor.

    The titanium coatings used on cutting tools is a deposition layer of titanium nitride or carbide, sometimes even boron. Rc 80, very hard stuff, not just plastics.
    So we have to find a titanium nitride razor - right? I had no idea that the Rockwell C scale was different for titanium than it is for steel. A rockwell 61c is different for steel than it is for other metals? I guess they should have called it the Rockwell C metal dependant sliding scale.

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    I remember having a discussion about titanium on Bladeforums.

    The conclusion was: A Titanium blade will never be as sharp as a steel blade.

    And that's for a KNIFE.

    Just imagine for a razor.

    As for Quattro Titanium, it's probably more of a titanium coating.

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