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07-05-2009, 05:42 PM #21
This is a tough one. Two of my grandmother's brothers were stripped of their dignity, professions, possessions, children, brothers sisters and parents; their homes; they were worked until near death, starved, stripped of their clothing, hair, glasses and gold fillings; marched into a gas chamber, had their bodies thrown onto a pile....by men wearing the swastika. Very hard for me to believe that we can't live without the relic.
On the other hand, my religion celebrates freedom from Egyptian slavery (Passover) so that we "never forget" and do not ourselves become enslavers.
I do not want one. I hold no grudge if you do; I only hope you may consider its history and not let your good fortune in having found it outweigh the solemnity of its twisted path.
But again, best to all.
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07-05-2009, 05:44 PM #22
I know a fleamarket seller who has similar claims.A collection of Nazi memorabilia.He has one of the most beautiful razor sI has ever seen.a red ,white and black cracked ice scaled razor w/ a white circle containing a swatika,made by Otto Hans Deutsch(with a price of $6000) and various other cool razors..He claims the described razor belonged to one of Hitlers cohorts,and others belonged to other nazi officers.Iteresting issue but way out of my price range.Would if I could,but not for anywhere near that price unless it had soekind of documentation.Nazi collectible or not.I am a true razor freak!
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07-05-2009, 06:12 PM #23
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Thanked: 488Very well said Alex! I know old WWII vets who collect all kinds of items from the war and it includes not only American uniforms, helmets etc but they also collect German military items. Maybe that was an issue razor to the German troops so for them it's just another collectible.
I'll give you a for instance on Nazi marked items that bring premium money and that's a Browning Hi Power with Nazi markings on it. Why? Because the plant was captured by the German army and production was changed to new serial numbers and markings for issue to officers of the German army. Many gun collectors pay a premium for them because they are rare, historical items not because of what the markings represent.
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07-05-2009, 06:20 PM #24
Thirty years ago I had a Jewish friend who was an airline pilot for Eastern. He was an avid collector of German Lugers from both wars. I once asked him if it ever bothered him to have nazi memorabilia. He replied that it was better that we had it than if they had it.
I bought a Mauser Luger with the nazi proof mark of the eagle over the swastika over it from him. It wasn't a week later that I traded it to another collector. The vibes I got from it were more than I could stand. I kept thinking that it might have been used to murder people and although it was an inanimate object it gave me the creeps. No nazi stuff for me, razors or anything else.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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07-05-2009, 06:28 PM #25
I did read through the whole thread, but I only want to reply to the OP.
There are collectors of all sorts of stuff, and Nazi memorabilia is no exception. The best example I can think of is the character from "American Beauty." His collection was among his most prized belongings, and the biggest "F you" his son could pull off was breaking into the office and touching Nazi china. (Yes, I know the character was nuts, but that had nothing to do with his collection.)
What I'm saying is that, like with anything else, to the right person it's probably worth a lot (like Al said above). And, when it comes to Nazi stuff, there are a fair amount of "the right people" out there.
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07-05-2009, 07:13 PM #26
Rarity sets the price and nothing else. In the Netherlands there's asaying: everything is worth what a fool is prepared to pay for it.
Whether we like it or not: even in Nazi Germany things of beauty were made. And things of beauty are collectable.Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr.
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07-05-2009, 08:46 PM #27
I'm sorry to anyone offended by the thread. I mean no disrespect to those affected by that regime. This is just a razor that i saw. I do not own it. I am curious as to how it is as offensive as it is. Because if one were to use the standard of the nazi regime then the the logo (made in america) should be 10 times horrifying. Once agian if this brought up hurt feelings i'm sorry
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07-05-2009, 08:56 PM #28
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07-05-2009, 08:56 PM #29
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Thanked: 317I understand and agree with all the folks who find no value in this razor, and find it repulsive. (I find the item itself repulsive. I find your question perfectly reasonable)
That being said, I have met people in my lifetime who would pay an incredible amount of money for such a thing if it was actually from Nazi era Germany.
Collectibles of that sort cannot have a set value. There are simply too many variables to consider, the biggest of which is finding a buyer.
There are history buffs who would want it for it's historical signifigance regardless of whether is was a nazi razor or a "Victory" razor as many products in the US and UK were labeled during WWII.
There are also, I'm sorry to say, certain nut jobs who would have fantasies about using a "nazi razor."
Whether or not you could find either one, which would pay more, and how much, is simply unanswerable.
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07-05-2009, 09:03 PM #30
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Thanked: 21Are you really trying to say that everything the United States has done is ten times worse than what Nazi Germany did?
I'm not saying that the US is perfect, or ever has been (Trail of Tears, Japanese incarceration, extraordinary rendition, the KKK) but even with all of that, I wouldn't put the US in the same league as the Nazis.
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but ...really??
J.