Results 1 to 10 of 32
Thread: More mystery sheffields
-
07-09-2009, 11:05 PM #1
More mystery sheffields
Hey, so does anyone know these razors?
I wanna say the first is a W&B, the handle says celebrated razor and I think I've seen this before.
The second is I dunno. It has a Cross, GB, then an Anchor. Maybe a "butcher"?
-
07-09-2009, 11:41 PM #2
With GB with cross all is clear, but an anchor. I can't find the company which marked razors GB and an anchor. And this is very interesting for me.
Last edited by manah; 07-09-2009 at 11:45 PM.
Alex Ts.
-
07-10-2009, 12:22 AM #3
The brand on the real mystery is like this:
|........|
|_____|
| + |
|GB|
| + |
| V |
|.../
Sorry for the ASCII art. the top + is the cross, kind of like a german iron cross, and the bottom + and V represents the anchor.
So the American Razor is W&B?Last edited by khaos; 07-10-2009 at 12:25 AM.
-
07-10-2009, 12:39 AM #4
For the GB, cross and anchor, take a look at this blade. Is that the same marking on the tang? http://straightrazorpalace.com/galle...falo-horn.html. I remember seeing another thread about blades with a similar marking recently; I'll see if I can find it.
For the American Razor, I am quite positive that is a W&B. I can read the writing on the tang in the picture. It says Wade & Butcher on the second line. I have seen other W&B's with similar scales, and I've seen other W&B American Razor's with the same etching (though I don't think I've seen any with that frosting).
-
07-10-2009, 12:42 AM #5
That is it exactly!
What I was thinking, since there was R. Wade, was there maybe a G. Butcher? I know W&B had an anchor at some point, and the cross looks similar, so maybe the W&B trademark came from hybridizing the two men's former companies. But then again I think Joseph Rogers and Joseph Smith both also had similar crosses.
-
07-10-2009, 12:49 AM #6So the American Razor is W&B?
There are some companies with marks GB with cross.
But where is an anchor?Last edited by manah; 07-10-2009 at 01:04 AM.
Alex Ts.
-
07-10-2009, 12:53 AM #7
It looks exactly like the GB + thing at the bottomish left, but with an anchor.
-
07-10-2009, 12:54 AM #810/8 in Translucent Buffalo Horn
W & B has another anchor, and it has never marked GB.Last edited by manah; 07-10-2009 at 01:01 AM.
Alex Ts.
-
07-10-2009, 01:08 AM #9
I have no idea who made that one, I was just pointing to another with the same marking. Maybe Philadelph (was that his?) found some info. Worth a PM at least.
I have also seen W&B's with anchors; I've had one, handled another, and one just went on ebay for $2XX (don't remember, I think it was $247), but I have never seen a W&B marked GB and, if I'm not mistaken, the W&B's that did have the anchor all said "W&B" on them. EDIT: I was looking at the wrong auction. Philadelph posted the correct one further down.
Off the top of my head, the only GB I can think of is George Butler, and I believe that he worked in the W&B factory at some point (I believe there was a document about W&B works that showed George Butler). But I'm pretty sure someone (Clavichord?) posted a timeline of the W&B symbols and the anchor was a pretty old one. If I'm not mistaken, George Butler was much more recent.Last edited by holli4pirating; 07-10-2009 at 02:38 AM.
-
07-10-2009, 01:11 AM #10
Edward Gem & Co. (end of XIX c.) also used the +GB trademark, as reported between A.Field's other trademarks. Both companies were active in Birmingham and Sheffield, so I wonder if at least in this case the anchor is used as traditional symbol of Birmingham. Just to complete the list of possible manufacturers of this blade.
Last edited by clavichord; 07-10-2009 at 01:14 AM.