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08-02-2009, 03:44 PM #1
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Thanked: 156Dovos pass the HHT before leaving the factory?
Found this video while perusing another site.
YouTube - Dovo
At the end, the honemistress is shown doing a HHT on the Dovo. Interesting...
Theres also a TI video on youtube.
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08-02-2009, 04:07 PM
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Impressive report!
Doesn't make their initial non shave readiness any sharper though.
08-02-2009, 04:10 PM
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Oh I am so going to regret posting this but here goes....
HHT's are very subjective, they can be used in many ways most of them wrong....
Honestly I can get an HHT to pop off a 1k stone if I have, say one of my hairs, and the right roughness on the blade edge... A wire edge can pop HHT also...
You have to develop a relevant HHT for yourself to make it a valuable tool to assess a shave ready blade.... and even then the shave test is still the only real one that counts..
All that being said unless that lady from Dovo has done that, and then shaved with the blade, all an HHT means is that at least one point on the edge the two sides meet and can cut hair....It DOES NOT mean that the edge is shave ready....
I can't even watch the vid at home, so I will look later to see if this is the same one that is posted all over....
08-02-2009, 04:16 PM
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Just estimate the time she needs to hone and strop.
She does that really fast, but there's no way to do that in under ten minutes.
If she's the only hone mistress there (thats how it looks)
it is impossible that she gives all that treatment to each single razor.
The horizontal disc grinding is all they deliver. Everything else maybe sundays and for TV of course.
08-02-2009, 04:17 PM
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Yeah, the HHT is over rated IMHO. I get it sometimes after stropping but not always. What I have found is that without exception if a razor will pop hairs off of my forearm without touching or coming near the skin it will give me a superlative shave.
Even that is individual. Randy was at one of the meet ups and had a razor popping hair off of his forearm like rain. Another member immediately tried the same edge on his forearm and it didn't work for him. He has never had a razor that would pop his fine forearm hair. So as Tom A.K.A. jendeindustries likes to say about honing, the answer often is "it depends."
Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
08-02-2009, 04:24 PM
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Actually I'd find it pretty normal if they would deliver their razors flat wheel ground AND SAY IT.
They are not that expensive.
You won't get a new car delivered with gas in the tank either.
Their mistake is, to label them as shave ready, while they aren't.
As an end result every newb thinks that Dovos are bad razors - which they actually aren't.
That report just makes things worse for them.
08-02-2009, 04:27 PM
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Great video. I know that Dovos used to come shave ready. I've seen them pretty poor in the last decade or so.
I loved watching her strop though. That is just neat.
Gives you an appreciation for the work involved. I'm still impressed that a razor only costs around $100 bucks.
08-02-2009, 04:31 PM
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Dovo pass the HHT . . .
Gentlemen,
Thank you for posting the video. I found it educating. Listening to the narration and the commentaries in German is a lot like going to the opera, where you don't understand the language, but the music and singing knock you on your establishment. Of course, provided you like opera, which I do.
Anyway, I also liked the posts commenting on the video, as well, although I continue to struggle with abbreviated words in many posts on this and other sites.
The English language, gentlemen, is capable of handling complete words, really. Some of us who date from the 19th century think there is nothing wrong with the English language as it exists. But that's perhaps the subject for another post.
Thank you.
Obie
08-02-2009, 04:35 PM
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HHT is Hanging Hair Test.
TI is a razor brand.
IMHO is "in my humble opinion"
08-02-2009, 04:41 PM
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I don't think most of us would class that as hht. It looks to me as if she uses the top of her thumb nail. Watch the second cut closely.
Looks like king goldstone; wonder what grit is on the horizontal wheel?