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    Default My "new" Palmera

    Well, not really new as you can see, but an old Pamera (1920s?), I think when they were still produced in Germany, what do you think, worth to give it a go and try to bring it back to life, or is gone forever?






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    Cheers

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    I'm extremely new at all this but it kinda looks like there's a knick on the blade in the last picture and what appears to be a very fine crack next to it although it could be just a reflection of the light. So my question is how much of a knick in the blade is repairable?

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    Que navaja marveillosa! La mella se puede quitar facilmente.

    I better continue in English (Although half my family lives in Spain I am really out of practice in terms of speaking the language, btw)

    Well this nick does not seem too bad at all. At the moment I am making a little break during honing a razor, which had a similar nick. It goes out easily, if you breadknife the razor on an 1k hone.
    Recently I honed a #14 Filarmonica, which I had to shorten for a about 2mm because of a nick. I guess, your razor was made from an identical #14 blank.

    The steel was quite hard, working on the 1k showed almost no result. So I taped the blade near the edge. I could then see, how much I can shorten the blade, and meanwhile I ensured the edge being parallel to the spine.(equal broadth)
    Then I shortended the blade on wet 240 grit sandpaper, holding it in quite steep angle to the paper's surface and rubbing it over the paper. Work was done in a minute.

    I am not a native speaker, and I hope, I did not explain simple things too complicate. If you want to, I can post pictures for better understanding.

    The razor:

    Congratulations: Palmera razors are quite rare and hard to find. I once heard, that all #14 blanks were produced in Solingen by "Hugo Herkenrath".
    As far as I know, the Filarmonica razors were made there too, and only ground in Spain by José Monserrat Pou. Not sure about this, but I think, that Iberia, Palmer and Filarmonca razors are identical, at least, the steel/blanks are.

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    Definitely worth a try! I vote for restoration&happy use!


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    Hi, Carlos.

    I have a NOS Palmera 14 and it stands at 7/8'', but that razor seems a lot shorter. I know that your razor is much older than mine, so we can be sure that the "14" model has always measured 7/8'' throughout the time.

    If your razor was shortened, I'd be worry about the cutting angle because from what I can see, the spine looks to be in its original thickness, thus providing a cutting angle wider than it should and making the shave uncomfortable.

    But give it a go and tell us what you think of it. Mine is a wonderful shaver, so I'm sure this can be too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mry314 View Post
    Definitely worth a try! I vote for restoration&happy use!


    +1 ! Even if you end up with a 4/8!

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    The spelling of HERBERZ is right, several cutlery manufacturers of such wording and similar writing with \"TZ\"-ending have been and are still established in Germany\'s \"capital of cutlery\", the city of Solingen.

    Ferd. (the abbreviation of the prename FERDINAND) HERBERZ company was founded in 1864 and was specialized in making different kinds of cutlery including razors.
    The products were marked with different trademarks, such as
    * HARPUNE brandname
    * a triangle with a hammer
    * a crocodile
    * an arrow with the wording HERBERZ
    * an unidentified object with wording EL PLUMERO
    * a palm tree with a pyramid.
    The comapny was in business still in 1939, but no Solingen directories mention it nowadays.

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    Thank you all for your comments!! For the time being I'll keep it i the "Projects" drawer, until I recover financially, and when possible I'll probably send it out to one of the Masters around here to try put it in shape...

    Best regards

    Carlos

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