Thread: A fake Wade & Butcher?

Certainly genuine W&B, pre-1895 and rescaled - I've never seen one of this age with plastic original scales.

And again - why fake them? If you're going to do stuff like this fake 6th. C Samurai swords or something - worth a lot more money........

But I agree - I have NEVER seen a fake W&B or old Sheffield razor. The game just isn't worth the candle.

Originally Posted by blueprinciple

Certainly genuine W&B, pre-1895 and rescaled - I've never seen one of this age with plastic original scales.

And again - why fake them? If you're going to do stuff like this fake 6th. C Samurai swords or something - worth a lot more money........

But I agree - I have NEVER seen a fake W&B or old Sheffield razor. The game just isn't worth the candle.

Vlad made the closest thing to a fake W&B that I've seen. Sure, it was a W&B to start, but just sayin...

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Originally Posted by BigBubba

Vlad made the closest thing to a fake W&B that I've seen. Sure, it was a W&B to start, but just sayin...

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Hmmmmm... there are some definite similarities to the razor I bought... but all that work for not a lot of money... seems like someone would be more inclined to re-etch it as a labor of love and to have a keepsake, rather than to make a little dough..

Originally Posted by dpl2

Hmmmmm... there are some definite similarities to the razor I bought... but all that work for not a lot of money... seems like someone would be more inclined to re-etch it as a labor of love and to have a keepsake, rather than to make a little dough..

Yeah, that post was a little tongue in cheek, and to expose the work of Vlad to some new guys.

I should have made it more obvious.

BTW, it looks like you got a great razor. I hope you enjoy it for many years to come.

Ok. My opinion, this is original W & B blade with bakelite scales (razor was rescaled). Most likely the etching was restored by "Presto" Gun Blue Pen or something like this.

Originally Posted by BigBubba

Vlad made the closest thing to a fake W&B that I've seen. Sure, it was a W&B to start, but just sayin...

The Making of a MINTY W&B Meatchopper. - Straight Razor Place Forums

That is an absolutely outstanding refurbishment. It really is vertually mint.

Since my name got drug into this let me try to clarify or confuse the situation.

First of all, I don't have a laser engraver. An engraving shop near me has one, but it can only burn wood, bone, ivory and the like. No metal and definitly not hardened steel. They also have a diamond engraver. It barely scratches hardened steel.

On the razor, the lettering on the tang is punched in BEFORE the steel is hardened. Don't hold me to these numbers but high carbon steel is mid 30s rockwell. After hardening and tempering about 60 rockwell. The lettering punches are about 50 rockwell, still hard, but tempered more to resist shattering.

The blade is obviously etched AFTER hardening and grinding. This is almost impossible to do mechanically. Most probably it was done chemically. The blade would be covered in an acid resistant material. I can't remember exactly what it was now. But let's say it was wax. The design, lettering or whatever would be scratched into the wax baring the metal. Then Aqua Rega (super acid) would be applied. The wax would protect the metal and the acid would etch the bared metal. If you have imperfect etching it was probably due to the prepared blade suffering some sort of trauma before or during acid application.

Of course, I could be totally wrong.

Bob
OCD Razors

Hey guys, I've had this razor for about two years now. The engraving job is terrible and I have a hard time believing that it passed a quality control inspection. I bought it from someone on SRP and am not sure what to do with it. I have tried to hone it to no avail and am not sure if it would be worth the money to have it restored. The scales appear to be real tortoise but I'm not sure. Any recommendations on what to do? Thanks.

Kyle

The writing just looks worn out to me. Now if it were mis-spelled, that would be a dead give-away!