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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Wait one second that has danger written all over it

    You are taking it to a RAZOR Honemeister right???? Not some knife guy
    I took it to Ross Cutlery in Downtown Los Angeles. And I have to say, hats off to Richard. He brought out his belgium stone from the back and showed my first hand how to hone. He spent about 20 minutes with me. I got a loop and looked at the razor before he honed it and after he honed it.

    He had me drag the razor across three of my fingers before he honed it, looking for the bite (there was none. i must have dulled it while learning to properly strop) and then he had me drag the razor across my fingers after he honed it to feel a proper bite. And I felt the difference. and then he stropped it. Oh, and he didn't charge me.


    So, should I wait for a couple days for some whisker growth, or just shave tonight (I shaved last night)?

    Hats off to Ross Cutlery in Los Angeles for defining what good customer service is. Richard is a honemeister and a good guy.

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    When you say you dragged it across your fingers, do you mean the nail? In fact, dragging an edge across a wet nail is something I would only do off a lower grit hone usually at the bevel setting stage. Nail tests do (or can) damage the edge somewhat, and I try to avoid them off higher grit polishers - most often a thumb pad test or HHT or arm hair wafting are the ones I use immediately prior to stropping a freshly honed edge.

    I'm not saying you will not get a decent shave, or that what was done was "wrong" (I do not even know if you meant the nail or not). Just something to think about.

    James.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    When you say you dragged it across your fingers, do you mean the nail? In fact, dragging an edge across a wet nail is something I would only do off a lower grit hone usually at the bevel setting stage. Nail tests do (or can) damage the edge somewhat, and I try to avoid them off higher grit polishers - most often a thumb pad test or HHT or arm hair wafting are the ones I use immediately prior to stropping a freshly honed edge.

    I'm not saying you will not get a decent shave, or that what was done was "wrong" (I do not even know if you meant the nail or not). Just something to think about.

    James.
    No. We did not drag it across the finger nail, but, holding the razor in my right hand and using the palm side of my left hand, I dragged the blade about an inch and half down on the skin of my index finger, middle finger and ring finger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toplin View Post
    No. We did not drag it across the finger nail, but, holding the razor in my right hand and using the palm side of my left hand, I dragged the blade about an inch and half down on the skin of my index finger, middle finger and ring finger
    I'd like to see a video of what you're describing here...

    But if it's what I THINK you're talking about, you should not do that. You do not "check for a bite" on a razor the same way you do for a knife.

    Look in the Wiki, and check out the Thumb Pad Test. IF you have to check the edge without shaving at that stage in the honing, the TPT is the way to do it.

    I'd like to know this guys experience with razors. At least he used a coticule

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar1999 View Post
    I'd like to see a video of what you're describing here...

    But if it's what I THINK you're talking about, you should not do that. You do not "check for a bite" on a razor the same way you do for a knife.

    Look in the Wiki, and check out the Thumb Pad Test. IF you have to check the edge without shaving at that stage in the honing, the TPT is the way to do it.

    I'd like to know this guys experience with razors. At least he used a coticule
    nah, we didn't do it like the wiki said to do it. I don't know anything, I'm new. Maybe he was showing me incorrectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toplin View Post
    nah, we didn't do it like the wiki said to do it. I don't know anything, I'm new.
    Read this: Sharpness tests explained - Straight Razor Place Wiki. It is perfectly acceptable to lack knowledge when one begins. It is utterly unacceptable, however, to propagate wrong solutions (especially those that could, like in this case, damage a razor). We did not compile the information in the Wiki for nothing, "Toplin".

    Quote Originally Posted by Toplin View Post
    Maybe he was showing me incorrectly.
    Even if he was not, the method described by you is definitely not best practice. You might want to spend some quality time with the information provided on this site.

    Robin

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeBerlin View Post
    Read this: Sharpness tests explained - Straight Razor Place Wiki. It is perfectly acceptable to lack knowledge when one begins. It is utterly unacceptable, however, to propagate wrong solutions (especially those that could, like in this case, damage a razor). We did not compile the information in the Wiki for nothing, "Toplin".
    Yes sir. I understand.
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    ross cutlery has been around for a while and have pretty good reputation.
    if whatever test they use to check the edge work for them i don't see any problem with that.
    tests are just that, a way to get an estimate of where the edge is because checking the progress by trying to shave (which at the end of the day is the reason for sharpening the razor) is a bit inconvenient.

    i'd wait till i have some stubble to shave, don't see the purpose of mock shaving a smooth face

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    ross cutlery has been around for a while and have pretty good reputation.

    Never heard of Ross Cutlery. But why take the advice of a cutlery shop over a group that is dedicated to straight razors?

    I would like to think the combined knowledge of the people HERE would FAR surpass that of someone at a cutlery store.

    Not saying they are TOTALLY wrong, but I would personally take the advice of people that specialize in a field over someone else.

    Just my feelings

    I hope they got your razor good and sharp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toplin View Post
    No. We did not drag it across the finger nail, but, holding the razor in my right hand and using the palm side of my left hand, I dragged the blade about an inch and half down on the skin of my index finger, middle finger and ring finger
    If you did that with one of my razors , you would have a deep nasty cut on those fingers .
    Greetings , from Dundalk , Maryland . The place where normal people , fear to go .

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