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04-18-2010, 07:28 PM #1
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Thanked: 0Do I need a better razor?
I've been shaving with a straight razor for a few years now, and love it. My first try was with a Dovo Shavette, and I still use that occasionally for travelling etc. The thing is, I have yet to be able to achieve the same sharpness with my normal razor, an old Swedish Eskilstuna blade which I am very fond of. It is a C.V. Heljestrand MK no 24, which is 14mm (9/16¨) across the blade.
So, question; do you guys achieve better sharpness than an industrial safety razor blade on your straight razors?
My gut feeling tells me it should be sharper. Should I buy a new razor with a known good edge to start with? Should I try to get the old blade honed? (I've had it sent off once, it helped, but not enough.)
Any feed back is appreciated!Last edited by Vass; 04-18-2010 at 08:06 PM.
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04-18-2010, 07:55 PM #2
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Thanked: 48i too started out with a shavette and have a 3/8 Eskilstuna. both will give you a great shave. honeing is just one ( although a big one) step . its your strop that will make or break your shave. i would if in your shoes send it to get honed and then read and watch everything i could find on stropping.you dont need a better razor, Eskilstuna made great razors.are my razors as sharp a say feather blade? no but they are smoother and more comfortable to shave with. hope this helps
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04-18-2010, 09:36 PM #3
In my opinion (i might be wrong as well) it is really difficult if not impossible to get straight razor sharper than industrially produced DE blade. But there is no even need to.
Comparing straight razor and DE is difficult as there are few differences to consider: DE blade is thinner and flexible. Bevel angle is also different. That is why they behave differently when shaving. Using these two require whole different techniques.
Now, again in my opinion, you can get better shaves with straight if your razor is sharp and your technique is ok. And as Cutalot said, you need a strop to give the final edge to your straight. Send your razor somewhere to get honed and get yourself a strop. You will find a world full of good advices and information here on SRP.
And no: You don't need another straight if you want to stick with only one straight razor.Your Heljestrand is an excellent razor. I have 2 Swedes myself and they are probably my best shavers. At least my favorites.'That is what i do. I drink and i know things'
-Tyrion Lannister.
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04-18-2010, 11:01 PM #4
I have several Eskilstuna razors and they are fine shavers. I have never used a feather shavette so I can't compare them to a straight. I would suggest stropping on newspaper and see if that improves your edge. Other options are CrOx, diamond paste and diamond spray. Either of these three can be tried on newspaper (use the Cr Ox and diamond stuff sparingly) or apply it to a second linen or leather strop. Try some of these if you don;t want to sent out for re-honing again.
Good luck.“If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got.” (A. Einstein)
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04-19-2010, 09:52 AM #5
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Thanked: 124+1 for what Sailor said. At least with my setup [1], my straights are less sharp than a DE, but much more highly polished [2]. That's why the DE tends to irritate me more ATG, even though it produces a fine result.
[1] My setup is a W&B wedge honed on Swaty, finished on hard paddle with CR02.
[2] Sharpness refers to acuteness of cross-sectional angle, whereas polish refers to depth of abrasive scratches
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04-19-2010, 10:05 AM #6
Thats a good razor you have there, and you dont need another one. Wanting another one is a different story though..!
Feather and DE blades are coated in teflon which gives them that over-sharp feeling that some people like or dont like. This adds to the glide of the blade.
Its certainly possible to get a straight razor to shave as well as a DE blade and in fact I get better shaves with my straights than I do with my DE. They are different beasts, with different bevel angles, but I prefer the straight razor to the DE.
You can try strop pastes if you dont want to send the razor off to be honed, as Joed suggested, or get yourself a barber hone for use in touch ups. You can get barber hones on eBay.
Good luck and keep us posted!