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    Default What's the deal with framebacks?

    I have been looking around SRP for general information on frameback razors, but I haven't yet found a thread that has it all in one place. If there is such a thread, I'd appreciate being directed to it, if not, perhaps some knowledgeable souls can answer a few questions for me.

    I am curious about what exactly defines a frameback razor? Why did/do they make them that way? Were they more popular at a certain point in time? Why do people prefer them or not?

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    I believe framebacks were made to be economical. A thin blade that didn't require extensive grinding was locked into frame that provided the necessary angle for honing and stropping. It provided the thin feel of a hollow ground blade, yet was still quite stable. Some blades were welded permanently into the frame and others could be removed and replaced with an identical blade if needed.

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    There is 2 framebacks
    1 Frame back
    2 is Faux frame back

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    What is the difference between the two types? Why would someone want to make a faux frame back?

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    The razor club forum shows some examples here in the Frameback Fanciers.
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    Not sure why anyone would make a faux frameback, apart from aesthetics.

    Strangely enough, a true frameback does little for me, while the faux framebacks seem to get me very excitable!

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    Just a supposition, but I think the frameback was an attempt at economy and expediency and as Ben said, the faux frameback was in response to the popularity of the look of the design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    The razor club forum shows some examples here in the Frameback Fanciers.
    Thanks, I somehow missed that club.

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    This is speculation, based on the little I know of the history of razor production.

    If anyone can add information or correct what I said, please jump in!

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    Until 1880 (plus or minus 10 or 20 years) razors were heavy grinds -- wedges or near-wedges.

    Then a demand developed for thinner grinds, but the techniques for grinding the blades hadn't been developed or weren't economical or practical for general production. The frameback came about as a compromise: a method of making a thinner, lighter-weight blade.

    After a decade or two (three? four?), hollow-ground razors replaced the framebacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magruder View Post
    This is speculation, based on the little I know of the history of razor production.

    If anyone can add information or correct what I said, please jump in!

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    Until 1880 (plus or minus 10 or 20 years) razors were heavy grinds -- wedges or near-wedges.

    Then a demand developed for thinner grinds, but the techniques for grinding the blades hadn't been developed or weren't economical or practical for general production. The frameback came about as a compromise: a method of making a thinner, lighter-weight blade.

    After a decade or two (three? four?), hollow-ground razors replaced the framebacks.
    I'm not sure faux framebacks could be "ground", they appear drop forged. Even a true frameback blade seems like it would be a lot easier to drop forge than evenly grind a sliver of metal without destroying the temper.
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