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    I think in general you get what you pay for. We would all like to be the discoverer of a cheap, quality, razor or brush but in the end I know I haven't seen any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    I think in general you get what you pay for. We would all like to be the discoverer of a cheap, quality, razor or brush but in the end I know I haven't seen any.
    For $65.00 shipped, I wasn't expecting the world. But I do at least expect it to be of a good enough quality steel to actually be usable.

    The vendor would like an opportunity to re-hone the razor, and make the situation right, and I intend on giving him that opportunity.

    He seems to be an gentleman who likes to help out newbies, so I don't think he would be selling garbage razors if he knew they were not of decent quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganlover View Post

    The vendor would like an opportunity to re-hone the razor, and make the situation right, and I intend on giving him that opportunity.

    He seems to be an gentleman who likes to help out newbies, so I don't think he would be selling garbage razors if he knew they were not of decent quality.
    I don't know who the vendor is (personally), but here are my thoughts...

    This doesn't sound like a situation that required a re-honing... this sounds like a razor that needed a proper honing in the first place. New "Honed" razors shouldn't leave with horrid bevels or problems of that kind.

    It seems kind of strange for a vendor to be helping out newbies by selling completely unknown razors for $65.00. Gold Dollars and Wapi's can be had for less of an investment, and they are something of a known quantity. That's not even speaking of the blades that can be found in certain classified sections of certain straight razor shaving forums

    I wonder if the vendor would be willing to front the cost of having a pro honemeister put this razor through the works.. If it's a good product, it will stand up to their care... if not, there will be no amount of work you'll do that will get your $65 back. just a thought, maybe it's worth his customer service reputation to spend 15-20 to satisfy a customer

    Please keep us updated on things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganlover View Post
    I am confused as to what you mean?? The razor appears to have a normal double shoulder, and spine to me?? Can you explain further?
    Hi John,
    I'm looking at the fourth photo you posted -- the back of the blade. The spine is what holds the edge of the blade at the correct angle when honing. The spine also holds the shoulder up off the hone when honing the razor. You cannot sharpen a razor the way you would a knife. The edge and the spine both have to sit on the hone.

    I'm looking at what appears to be a nonexistent spine up against the shoulder on the back of the blade and the uneven bevel on the edge. Razors with significant or uneven hone wear can often be sharpened with techniques like "rolling X's," but I do not see how it would be possible to get a consistently shave ready sharpness along the entire edge of that razor. You aren't going to be able to shave with it.

    Now you'll see that I just joined in February so I am not claiming to be an expert.

    Please know I'm not trying to be insulting, but it seems you have rather low expectations for the money you are spending. I purchased my first straight razor from SRP member Larry Andro in the SRP Classifieds. I paid twenty-three dollars and it arrived shave ready. I still shave with it today (it's in my rotation) with only one touch up since (because of my early poor stropping technique).

    It's your choice but I really think you should get your money back from the eBay vendor and invest that $65.00 in a razor from the SRP Classifieds, like this one here which is being sold for $60.00. The seller states: "This is a Gibson 'Twin Ports' 11/16 Square Point Hollow Grind. This is a German made razor, along with a mirror finish. This is an excellent shaving razor. The razor come to you with a fresh hone and is shave tested and shave ready by me. The price includes shipping any where in the USA and Canada"

    The seller has been a member of SRP since January so I would tend to trust him more than a vendor on eBay. (Of course, there are SRP members who also sell on eBay.)

    And with that, I will shut my yap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del1r1um View Post
    This doesn't sound like a situation that required a re-honing... this sounds like a razor that needed a proper honing in the first place. New "Honed" razors shouldn't leave with horrid bevels or problems of that kind.
    Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. After further consideration, I have requested a refund from the vendor, and he has agreed to provide it. The razor is going out in the mail this morning.

    I can't be led to believe that a person who knew what they were doing with honing would ever let such a poor honing job leave their shop. The minimal expectations for what a customer would deem as acceptable should not be that hard to figure out.

    I simply can't have any confidence that the second try at honing will be any better than the first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    Please know I'm not trying to be insulting, but it seems you have rather low expectations for the money you are spending. I purchased my first straight razor from SRP member Larry Andro in the SRP Classifieds. I paid twenty-three dollars and it arrived shave ready. I still shave with it today (it's in my roatation) with only one touch up since (because of my early poor stropping technique).
    I really can't afford to absorb a $65 loss on a razor that may never shave correctly. Thus I have requested a refund. The funds will be used to purchase a razor of known excellent quality.

    ~John~
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