Thread: take a close look at this

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Look at his last sale

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Look familiar???

Here are some hints at buying razors on e-bay...

There are very very very few quality sellers on there and all 4 that I know of are members here too
You should stay the heck away from e-bay until you have enough experience with razors not to have to ask about whether they were a good buy

Either way this was done "Buffing" or "Plating",,, and I can't tell which could have killed the temper of the razor... (I doubt Plating)
There is a very delicate balance between restoration and wrecking a razor... in fact that balance can switch in less than 1 second on a buffer with a hollow grind...
BTW look at the pins on both razors, they look in the pics to have been popped and replaced so he has to have some knowledge of razors...

With an E-bay name like GunGuy he can't be all bad though and maybe he does know about how far to take a razor and you might have a good shaver there...

Agreed! Buying on ebay without some knowledge of what's good and what's bad is never a good idea.

Originally Posted by RazorTalkin

Agreed! Buying on ebay without some knowledge of what's good and what's bad is never a good idea.

+1, or anywhere else for that matter.

RazorTalkin...that is the same razor. i really think it's been plated. the surface looks completely artificial and the engraving has plating in it, and also pockmarks where it didn't stick. the letters are all filled up and blurry. the second i saw it i thought it was a fake, it looks that bad. i've bought several razors from ebay, including a red point917, and a worcester razor co that i;ve been shaving with. this is the first one that has disappointed me. the red point was only 27 bucks and i haven't paid more than 6 bucks 'for any of the others.

Originally Posted by Noisykids

RazorTalkin...that is the same razor. i really think it's been plated. the surface looks completely artificial and the engraving has plating in it, and also pockmarks where it didn't stick. the letters are all filled up and blurry. the second i saw it i thought it was a fake, it looks that bad. i've bought several razors from ebay, including a red point917, and a worcester razor co that i;ve been shaving with. this is the first one that has disappointed me. the red point was only 27 bucks and i haven't paid more than 6 bucks 'for any of the others.

Sorry, but everything you describe matches with an incomplete buffing job.

I may be crazy but the tip looks different on one side then the other,looks like a french nose and then not....is it me?

I'v seen razors like this before it's a poor attempt at restore, this is what happens when greaseless compounds are used by inexperienced restorer(the corners are rounded over , letters are not sharp, and most of the time you can see vertical line on the face of the blade )

I thought that particular Boker shoulderless was always a french point. I have just worked on three of them and this one is not only missing the point.....but a lot of steel in the shoulderless area as well. Just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by Utopian

Sorry, but everything you describe matches with an incomplete buffing job.

I'm sure Ron is correct here.

The slick sheen comes from the proximity of the unmasked light source - it is direct light that has not been softened or bounced in any way. The fact that the light is a point source exaggerates the lighting effect further.

People teaching novices to use grinders and buffers in machine shops often use the example of 'smearing' to point out mistakes - details such as lettering, etc, become smeared and blurry-edged if the buffing is done incorrectly - it can even look like the surface has melted and reset in extreme examples.

If anyone was to go to the extremes of plating to restore a razor, they would have unpinned the blade and coated with a softer metal first to fill in the pock marks, then sanded back, then replated with nickel or chrome - a lot of time and hassle to perform. And expensive.

Regards,
Neil

even the bevel was the same shiny color. you could see a multitude of pits underneath whatever was covering this blade. every bit of the blade and shank that i could see was the same. anyway, it went back to the guy today. how in the world did this silver covering flow into the letters?

Well, I tried. This was probably a very good shaver that simply was not restored to perfection. I have shaved for years with a set of razors that are flat out ugly. Even though I've improved with restorations, I'm leaving my original set of 7 that I had in my gym locker for 8 years in their original condition. They have areas of rust, they have pitting, one of them has a slight bend in the edge, and one is cracked. You know what? Even though they've been maintained with nothing but a barber hone for 8 years they all shave just fine.

That Boker was not restored very well, but it was still made by Boker. I have never used a Boker that was not a great shaver.