Thread: What's the deal with Krieger razors?

I bought one of these a while back from Amazon to learn how to hone with, and couldn't even do that. Now it sits on my desk at work to open mail with.

I think the best way to describe them would be "thick, oversized, heavy folding knives", certainly not something you would want on your face.

I noticed on Ebay that expedited shipping is an option, my only question is, "why"?

Just my humble opinion, but I have a feeling the mileage won't vary much.

What do we know of their steels (other than the obvious crap metal) what kind/ grades do they use....?? Does anyone have this info lying around or can give me an idea where to find it???

I'm asking because I'm tempted to try some heat tempering on the razors improve their edge holding....

Originally Posted by SpecialWarr

What do we know of their steels (other than the obvious crap metal) what kind/ grades do they use....?? Does anyone have this info lying around or can give me an idea where to find it???

I'm asking because I'm tempted to try some heat tempering on the razors improve their edge holding....

That would be like heat treating a piece of carboard
The thing is: if they couldn't be bothered to make a decent razor, what makes you think they paid a premium for tool steel, rather than 'any thing that looks like steel, in a good light'. Unless the steel has the capability to get a decent edge, you really can't get a decent edge to it.

And aside from all of that: if you try heat treating a razor that is already ground to a hollow, the thin part of the blade will bend and twist like a ribbed potato chip.

A naive friend tried this brand of razor for his first straight razor shave experience. It went awful and put him off to straight shaving. I suggested he give it a go again with a better brand. My suggestion is to stay away from Kriegers. They appear to be a tad harsh on ones face.

The reason I was wondering what this crap metal is made of is because most stainless steel can be hardened in the home oven (although I'll not post the heat treating chart here because of its' size) and although they may have been heat treated, that does not mean that they cannot be re-heat treated to a better hardness! Additionally, most if not all, have and excelent resistance to warping IF the proper precautions are taken in the process of cool-down air hardening..... and I need something to do at night!

Thanks for the info though, the rest of us beginners are itching to get started!

I bought one for the scales. My goodness they are heavy. Kinda makes me wonder why they even bother.

what about there stropes???or zeepk stropes or whatever,,,,,i mean for the 20$ leather strop (if its leather) ???

Originally Posted by ri7ani

what about there stropes???or zeepk stropes or whatever,,,,,i mean for the 20$ leather strop (if its leather) ???

Stay away from the strops as well, because they are as good as the razors. They only look like strops but are crap.

The reason all these makes (Zeepk, Kriegar, Master etc...) are on the "avoid" list is because they are known to be really bad.

IMO theres not really any point in trying to improve them or fix them as they're just not worth the time or money and you probably wont be able to fix them anyway.

The razors are made from pig iron and are so poor that the edges fail before they get sharp enough to shave with and the strops are made from, it would appear, extract of pure Empire blend banana skin.

Seriously, stay away from anything on the avoid list. The stuff is there for a reason!

It was only my love for old things that saved me from buying one when I was first thinking about straight razor shaving.I love the idea of using something that was actually used by someone a few decades ago or from the 1800's so I bought my first razor from theinvisibleedge.co.uk and got a 1920's Flic.I didn't know anything about blade sizes and it is a 7/8th's.(now my favourite size).