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11-04-2010, 08:59 PM #11At this point in time...
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Those are stones alright, see the wet and the slurry...
Not even close to the machines I saw but same principle
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11-04-2010, 09:03 PM #12(John Ayers in SRP Facebook Group)
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I haven't learned to hone or sharpen my blade, but this thread prompted me to ask myself how I judge a razor and the answer is, they way they shave when I first receive them.
My favorites have been Filarmonica, Henckels Friodur, and Le Grelot. My least favorite for some reason has been Dovo. I just haven't been able to get the kind of satisfaction everyone else seems to be getting with that very popular brand. I got one brand new, shave ready, and I got one used, shave ready.
I suspect that I will be able to get the same caliber shave with all of them once I learn to sharpen them up. I really don't feel qualified to evaluate a blade until I have learned to do this.
Straight razor shaver and loving it!40-year survivor of electric and multiblade razors
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11-04-2010, 09:04 PM #13Senior Member
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Originally Posted by gssixgun
I know it's kinda off the subject sorry for that. But ya those are stones for sure. The pic on the first page looks like a single stone. Then the 2 together used wet. I know there is a video somewhere of him using that set up.
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11-04-2010, 09:18 PM #14Senior Member
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I love all the safety guards on the machines. Belts and stones in this one but it's the video I was thinking of. The tension of the stones is controlled by hand that is so bad ass!!!!!
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11-04-2010, 09:46 PM
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I have a high regard for the quality of vintage razors. Unless they are compromised with rust, almost to the last one, they seem to shave well. But, there are differences nonetheless...
Sometimes, I hone, say, a Dubl Duck and think I know why they are so popular. Then, I hone some odd vintage razor that is stamped "Acme Hardware, Taneyville, Missouri" which hones just as well as the Dubl Duck. Then, I hone a Torrey that doesn't hone quite as well, but does hone nicely.
I've given up! I find gems among the Acme Hardware generic vintage razors about as often as I find pedigreed well-known razors that don't hone quite as well as the Acme's.
I am sure aging and storage conditions is a factor. I am sure that it is likely that the same plant and/or procedure that created some well known razors also created the Acme Hardware generics. My conclusion is...
If it is vintage, it is quality. Few exceptions!
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11-04-2010, 09:52 PM
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Watching the whole vid it looked like those small stones were only used for the very edge contour... Looked like the huge belts were used for the secondary grinding... Also I wonder what they used for the initial grinding as if you look close the razor blanks have grinds before he starts on the big belts....
Way cool video though thanks for sharing I can't believe I have missed that one all this time
11-04-2010, 09:56 PM
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Now, I agree with this assessment..
My feeling is that sometimes there are batches that just hit it right! And I believe the difference lies in heat treatment.
There's a pretty narrow window where hardness is achieved just right... I little too long getting to the quenching medium, the steel cools just a bit too much... Who knows. Even with todays modern techniques to prevent decarburization, things go wrong.
We used to send alot of large die rings and components for professional heat treatment, and most went very well, but it was always a bit of a gamble, even with folks that earn their living at it every day!
Bur, I really don't know.... Maybe it is the phase of the moon during the birth of the steel...
11-04-2010, 10:32 PM
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I think this is the vid you were thinking of, Glen: how Dovo is currently making their razors (just saw this last week on the board):
YouTube - Making DOVO Straight Razors
(I hope posting the link is OK, I apologize if not).
Kent
