Thread: Help on Swedish razor

Originally Posted by Frameback

Ferdi has a point

Feel free to read Bosses postings in another forum, corresponds well with the historical facts and what kindals relatives today says

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthr...mparing-models

I'm sorry, but what historical facts? I don't belive it was like that and all the MK:s or BK:s I've ever bought has been bought in Sweden (and it's no small number) and I find it unlikely they first where exported and then brought back to Sweden. I think facts should be from written documents and not from what you hear from different people or relatives wanting to promote their own name/biz.

I don't know all facts, but I do trust the factory cheets I've got and they say that the different marks stands for different grinds (and that you could have them all with different types of scales, some being more expensive than others).

Honestly, I don't know all the facts, maybe there's a mixed truth of the everything. Maybe the models names Mk, BK, Le Prince etc are both names that tells the diference between grinds and connected to the grand, grand children of C V Heljestrand - but why didn't they name the French line after the french family then? The later is only speculations however, until documents prove otherwise (and that's not what someone in France writes on a website).

The fact that Ferdi was pointing to,

Kindal bought AB C V Heljestrand when it was up for sale.

Not facts, but more interesting reading for who is interested in the subject
Kindal | eskilstunaknivar.se

Originally Posted by Frameback

The fact that Ferdi was pointing to,

Kindal bought AB C V Heljestrand when it was up for sale.

As far as I know it, Heljestrand was still owned by the Heljestrand family in Sweden when they closed shop in the 1980:s. I could be wrong of course, but that's what I've red (I think they kept on doing some tools for the hospital industry though, not sure however).

Originally Posted by Mikael

I'm sorry, but what historical facts? I don't belive it was like that and all the MK:s or BK:s I've ever bought has been bought in Sweden (and it's no small number) and I find it unlikely they first where exported and then brought back to Sweden. I think facts should be from written documents and not from what you hear from different people or relatives wanting to promote their own name/biz.

I don't know all facts, but I do trust the factory cheets I've got and they say that the different marks stands for different grinds (and that you could have them all with different types of scales, some being more expensive than others).

Honestly, I don't know all the facts, maybe there's a mixed truth of the everything. Maybe the models names Mk, BK, Le Prince etc are both names that tells the diference between grinds and connected to the grand, grand children of C V Heljestrand - but why didn't they name the French line after the french family then? The later is only speculations however, until documents prove otherwise (and that's not what someone in France writes on a website).

Have to agree with Mikael here - that post has no historical references that can be checked - its just one man's opinion.

Originally Posted by Bergstedt

Where does this leave the models with neither of those markings, but simply a "No", like C.V. Heljestrand No7? The link below is to a store that sells a No7, but also a MK7, which is different. So it doesn't seem to be a mistake.

http://www.sliqhaq.se/stock-heljestrand-p-1215.html

I think those models (with only a single digit) was later/ more contemporary models.

Originally Posted by Mikael

I think those models (with only a single digit) was later/ more contemporary models.

Ok. Thanks!

Here is the Heljestrand spreadsheet:
Different models
Model
Width
Geometry
Point
Special
MK1 n/a
MK2 9/16-5/8 Full Hollow Square Point n/a
MK3 5/8 Full Hollow Square Point n/a
MK4 5/8-11/16 Full Hollow Square Point n/a
MK5 n/a
MK6 13/16 Half Hollow (1/2) n/a
MK7 5/8 Full Hollow Square Point n/a
N.7 5/8 Quarter Hollow (1/4) Square Point n/a
MK8 11/16 Full hollow Square Point n/a
N.8 11/16 Full hollow Square Point n/a
MK9 n/a
MK10 13/16 Full Hollow n/a
13 13/16 Half Hollow (1/2) Square Point Stamped "E. Montagnac 13"
MK22 5/8 Wedge (1/4 Hollow?) n/a
MK23 5/8 Quarter Hollow (1/4) Square Point n/a
MK24 3/8-9/16 Quarter Hollow (1/4) French Point n/a
N.24 3/8-9/16 Quarter Hollow (1/4) French Point n/a
MK29 4/8 Full Hollow Square Point n/a
MK30 4/8-9/16 Full Hollow Round Point Thumb Notch
MK31 5/8-11/16 Full Hollow Muted Square Point Thumb Notch
MK32 11/16-13/16 Full Hollow Muted Square Point Thumb Notch
MK33 11/16-7/8 Full Hollow Muted Square Point Thumb Notch
MK41 11/16 Quarter Hollow (1/4) n/a
BK42 11/16 Quarter Hollow (1/4) Square Point n/a
MK44 13/16 n/a
MK134 8/8-17/16 Full Hollow Square Point n/a
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