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Thread: Boker means business?
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02-23-2011, 05:35 AM #11
Everybody always says go for the classifieds, but not all of the razors there are ideal for a beginner. I went with SRD for two reasons.
1) New razor so I didn't have to worry about sanding/buffing changing the original grind or any other unknown ailments. It's taken me a while to determine who from this group I'd freely buy from, and my list may be different than yours.
2) It came honed by Lynn AND with a coupon for a free second honing. I'm convinced Lynn could put an edge on a brick that would remove whiskers from your face. You might experience some burn, but man up, Nancy.
No matter how good you think you are, you will mess up your edge at some point with poor stropping and/or bad shaving technique. I thought that comment was always directed towards every other newbie on this list, but not me. Wrong! I think my shaving technique was harder on my razor when I first started than my stropping, and together they both killed my edge.
I can't tell you how nice it was to have a new Dovo ebony to learn with and then, as soon as I realized the edge was off from 100%, I dropped it in the mail to Lynn and it came back better than new in two weeks. My confidence went up a little with that and my shaves improved by leaps and bounds.
Well worth the $125 price, in my opinion. Your not going to beat the SRD price on the Dovo Best Quality ($68 at last check) by enough with a purchase from the classifieds to make up for the free honing that everyone will agree you will need in a matter of months. I'm not sure why more newbies aren't pointed in that direction.
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02-23-2011, 06:44 AM #12
I'm very new to straight razor shaving so take this for what you will.
The other big difference is that the Edelweiss is carbon steel where as you other option was stainless. It is my understanding that stainless is harder and thus will hold its edge somewhat longer, but will also require more work to re-hone. Carbon will be easier to hone, but will have to be done more often. You need to take care to keep either type from rusting.
I got my Boker Edelweiss from SRD and am very pleased with it. The bone scales are gorgeous and it is well constructed. I was also impressed by my experience with SRD.
Be happy knowing you can't really go wrong with your choice. Just pick whichever floats your boat.
+1 raneydays imput on SRD the second free honing was one of the major factors I went with them.Last edited by KingOscar; 02-23-2011 at 07:18 AM.
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02-23-2011, 07:05 AM #13
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Thanked: 0How often would a carbon steel razor such as the one featured in the Boker edelweiss have to be honed? Also how would I prevent the blade from rusting? SRD offer a nice wet shave set including the edelweiss... Very tempting
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02-23-2011, 07:13 AM #14
Someone more experienced and/or wiser will have to answer you about how much more often carbon needs to be honed vs stainless steel. It also varies on frequency of shaving and beard toughness. I've read it can be for a few weeks to a month or two between honings, this can be extended somewhat through using abrasive pastes.
As for keeping the blade from rusting the process is the same regardless of metal type. After shaving clean the blade and then inspect the blade and scales to ensure they are dry. I use a Q-tip if any moisture gets between the scales. I then will wipe one a thin layer of mineral oil on the meal. I don't know if that is me being type-A or not, but I can sleep soundly knowing I won't have to worry about rust.
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02-23-2011, 07:18 AM #15
How often you need to hone depends on the quality of your edge, toughness of your beard etc.
One advantage of buying a vintage razor is that it will its value. If you buy new and it turns out you don't like it you cannot sell it for the same price you bought it for. With vintage you can. If needed you can get them honed for about 20 USD.Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr.
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02-23-2011, 07:34 AM #16
You may also quickly find it is good to have at least 2 razors for when you need to send one in for honing. Or for sharpness comparison.
I bought my new boker edelweiss so I'd have my shiny edge I could be proud of and I also went to Whipped Dog Straight Razor Sales to get an inexpensive vintage that is expertly honed. If you look around Larry has pretty good rep for honing on this site.
This way I can shave with my new Boker until it needs to be sent in for honing. Then I have a razor to shave with while it is gone, and once I get my Boker back from SRD I can learn to hone on my cheap vintage blade.Last edited by KingOscar; 02-23-2011 at 07:38 AM.
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02-23-2011, 07:41 AM #17
I am typically in the buying a vintage blade block for your first SR for the reason of you just don't know if your going to like this form of shaving.
If you are going to go new either of your picks will work great for you and really you won't notice any of the differences in the razor as it is your first razor, Its the second one where you start to understand the differences between razors. I started with a 4/8 lightweight razor with a spike point and my favorite razor ended up being a 6/8 heavy weight round point so you just never know what you are going to like till you take the plunge.
If you do have the money buying a whole set is nice also as when it comes your good to get started on the day and not have to wait. Just one bit of advice when you get your shave ready razor don't strop it just shave with it the first time as it will have been stropped to its sharpest point by the honemiester who put the edge on the blade for you.Last edited by Castel33; 02-23-2011 at 07:49 AM.
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02-23-2011, 07:44 AM #18
YachtManDan,
Have you had a peek at the vintage razors from:
Mr Neil Miller (Straight Razors / Open Razors / Cut-throat Razors for Sale)
and Mr Steve Dempster (Shave-Ready Vintage Razors)
Mr Miller & Mr Dempster also do most excellent honing work.
Good luck in your quest !
Have fun !
Best regards
Russ
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