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Thread: dubl ducks: American or German?
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05-11-2011, 05:12 AM #1
dubl ducks: American or German?
There were a lot of American razor companies that distributed razors made in Germany, England, Sweden, and France. For example, I have a dubl duck Goldedge and a dubl duck Special No. 1, both made in Germany.
How do you classify these razors? Are they American or are they German?
I can see that if a US company bought steel or razor blanks from a foreign company but actually finished the razor here in the US, it could rightly be considered an American razor. But what about razors that were made to order and built in a foreign country for distribution by a US company? How would you classify them?
I have a similar question about a Torrey razor in my collection that looks very much like my Heljestrand razors. It is not marked Sweden but it could certainly be taken for a physical twin to a Swedish Heljestrand.
I realize this is a "tempest in a teapot" question but inquiring minds want to know.
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05-11-2011, 06:12 AM #2
Dubl Duck is Solingen Germany, and as far as I know that's where they were made. Ain't much help, I know. Somebody that knows for sure will chime in, I'm sure.
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05-11-2011, 07:51 AM #3
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Thanked: 13249I see what yer asking, and Yes a DD is German... There are some that get a bit trickier though, and some that there are both American made and German made and also the reverse such as some Bokers that were American made
So yes that is a loaded question, and as with many questions that arise in this hobby there is no clear cut answer on many razor brands ....
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05-11-2011, 04:02 PM #4
No different than buying some product in Wallyworld with their name brand on it. Is it American or Chinese? Well that's an easy one. With DD they were an American outfit-retailers and wholesalers only. All their products were made for them and they put their name on them. Most were made in Germany but a few came from other places. Some French, some American. They also retailed other manufacturers like the Puma's and the Black Diamonds and the Gold Mandarins for example where they left those names on the blades.
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05-11-2011, 04:39 PM #5
Of course any item should be considered to be made wherever the country of origin was. With cutlery, if not with other things, there was a treaty made internationally somewhere around 1889, IIRC. The treaty demanded that any razor be stamped with the country of origin if it was to be exported.
An interesting exception , IMO, is the Sta Sharp line by Sears. I know that Koeller made Solingen branded Sta Sharps while the identical razors were marketed by Sears (Craftsman) with no "Made in Solingen" on the blades or the cases. I've always wondered how they got away with that ? OTOH, the Ern marked Craftsman razors were marked Solingen.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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05-13-2011, 02:53 AM #6
There's an Ebay seller that sells old DD ads.
Few examples:
Shows SatinWedge American made $3.75, German $4.50.
SatinEdge $5.50 American, $6.00 for German.
Dwarf and Special#1 were $5.50 German/$5.00 American
GoldEdge seemed to always show German.
Here is an example of one of the ads the vendor has one ebay. Looks like same vendor,tytina, has many others too.Last edited by dirtychrome; 05-13-2011 at 05:35 AM.
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05-13-2011, 04:41 AM #7
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05-13-2011, 05:15 AM #8
I Did a Search!
A search of dubl duck razors in the SRP Wiki seem to be primarily Solingen, Germany, so it didn't really help answer my question.
However, a Google search for dubl duck Satinedge razors showed a Pearlduck Satinedge with a "reg. US" marking and a Bresduck Satinedge with a "Solingen, Germany" marking. So it may be possible, at least on some level, to distinguish between German and US dubl ducks. Now I will know how to categorize the dubl ducks in my collection.
BUT NOW I WANT TO BUY a German Satinedge and a US Satinedge of the same size to compare them. It is never ending!
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP. IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!