Thread: Bastet

Originally Posted by Fikira

That is a very good option indeed, it found his name a time ago, but I've got stuck on the fact that he mostly produced chirurgical instruments, could it possibly be that it is an instrument? It would be fantastic to see resembling pictures... This is the only other picture one I've googled, without info...

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Very very much pleased with your research!

Regards

Hi firka I see that your getting hung up on the fact that they made surgical tools but you have to remember that most of the people the produced razors also produced other forms of cutlery which would include surgical tools. Joseph Rodgers made whole eating sets, Erik anton berg and joseph engstrom made kitchen knives and Weck made surgical tools.

Originally Posted by Castel33

Hi firka I see that your getting hung up on the fact that they made surgical tools but you have to remember that most of the people the produced razors also produced other forms of cutlery which would include surgical tools. Joseph Rodgers made whole eating sets, Erik anton berg and joseph engstrom made kitchen knives and Weck made surgical tools.

I know, that is not the problem, the examples, pictures that I've seen of D bastet are from surgical tools, wich gives me no reference for dating my razor
The information from Niel Miller is very helpfull because now there is a chance that my razor is from D Bastet
I'm hoping for more pictures and evidence!

Regards

Originally Posted by stimpy52

I picked this up years ago in a pair of clear horn scales that simply crumbled to the touch. Looks old, but it's about half-hollow. Possibly re-ground. Someday I'll get some appropriate scales, hone this old girl up.....and.... shave my cat?

Great pictures! And very nice to know there are more of them!

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

How about Daniel Bastet? -

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The references above date from 1824/25. "la Haye" means the Netherlands - Holland. So the same family as T. F. Bastet, presumably. Earlier razors were just marked 'Bastet'.

Regards,
Neil

Some great info yet again, Neill. Just one modification, "la Haye" means "Den Haag" in Dutch, which in English would be "The Hague", in the west of The Netherlands, in the province of South-Holland, and is situated only about 60 km south-west of Amsterdam (also, rather archaicly, known as 's Gravenhage).

I also, possibly falsely, assume they were related. There might have been two Bastet-firms active at the same time (calling for the T.F. distinction) or one cmoved from The Hague to Amsterdam and continued where the other left off. They are relatively close.

Or it may just be a coincidence that two Bastets supplied razors in close vicinity of each other during the same century.

Originally Posted by Castel33

Hi firka I see that your getting hung up on the fact that they made surgical tools but you have to remember that most of the people the produced razors also produced other forms of cutlery which would include surgical tools. Joseph Rodgers made whole eating sets, Erik anton berg and joseph engstrom made kitchen knives and Weck made surgical tools.

A lot of razor manufacturers also produced all kinds of knives and woodworking tools, E.A. Berg among others (E.A. Berg chisels still fetch a nice price at auctions). I assume many manufacturers in other countries may have done the same.

Originally Posted by brooksie967

Love the look of this old guy! Almost like a french point? I am especially curious about the height of the tang and love how it just slowly tapers off from the spine.

Sorry for the late answer;
The maximum height of the tang is 11/16, of the blade 13/16-7/8, and de blade is 6 3/8 long,

Regards

Originally Posted by Pithor

Some great info yet again, Neill. Just one modification, "la Haye" means "Den Haag" in Dutch, which in English would be "The Hague", in the west of The Netherlands, in the province of South-Holland, and is situated only about 60 km south-west of Amsterdam (also, rather archaicly, known as 's Gravenhage).

I also, possibly falsely, assume they were related. There might have been two Bastet-firms active at the same time (calling for the T.F. distinction) or one cmoved from The Hague to Amsterdam and continued where the other left off. They are relatively close.

Or it may just be a coincidence that two Bastets supplied razors in close vicinity of each other during the same century.





A lot of razor manufacturers also produced all kinds of knives and woodworking tools, E.A. Berg among others (E.A. Berg chisels still fetch a nice price at auctions). I assume many manufacturers in other countries may have done the same.

Interesting!Was ' sGravenhage the old name for Amsterdam?
I found the coöperation of Thomas Francois Bastet and Thomas Francois Bastet junior with the start of the firm in Amsterdam in 1881 with trademarks T.F. Bastet and T.F.Bastet Jr.,

Before the this date there is a anouncement of the death of Francois Daniel Bastet in 1864, he was a (surgical) instrument and knife maker in Den Haag
Also there ar several advertisements of Bastet razors in Indonesian newspapers, "JAVA bode", "de locomotief", 1872,1876,1877
and Bastet penknives in 1855,1865

There is much information and also so little...

Like I tried to say, I want to find as much as information as possible so I can say with relative accuracy who the maker of my razor was,
I know that the manufacterers made other things than razors, but it's hard to find reall evidence of some manufactures that the made actually razors also, and mutch harder sill to find pictures or catalogues, prints,...
I'm not hung up by that fact, I've got stuck on the fact that the made mostly surgical instruments, at that time I had no proof that D Bastet made razors as well, now I know more with the help of Neil Miller, with much gratitude!

Regards

Originally Posted by Fikira

Interesting!Was ' sGravenhage the old name for Amsterdam?
I found the coöperation of Thomas Francois Bastet and Thomas Francois Bastet junior with the start of the firm in Amsterdam in 1881 with trademarks T.F. Bastet and T.F.Bastet Jr.,

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Nope. Amsterdam and ' sGravenhage always been two differend city's.
Nice razor by the way.
The only thing i can find is thats Bastet is a shop thats sold knives scissors , mayby your razor is made foR them.link < sorry is in Dutch.
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Originally Posted by kalerolf

Nope. Amsterdam and ' sGravenhage always been two differend city's.
Nice razor by the way.

Thanks for the information!

My bad Fikira, my wording was a bit messy. I meant to say that "'s Gravenhage" is the alternative name (still officially anyway, although no-one uses it anymore) for "Den Haag" (The Hague) when I said:

Originally Posted by Pithor

(also, rather archaicly, known as 's Gravenhage).

I put it at the end of the entire paragraph, which was indeed quite confusing.

Originally Posted by Pithor

My bad Fikira, my wording was a bit messy. I meant to say that "'s Gravenhage" is the alternative name (still officially anyway, although no-one uses it anymore) for "Den Haag" (The Hague) when I said:



I put it at the end of the entire paragraph, which was indeed quite confusing.

OK no problem!

Thanks!

Regards