Thread: Need some help with "Friedrich Schrick" and a fellow

Just got two razors - one of these ebay auctions where everything is bad (bad presentation, invalid paypal account, lazy and lousy correspondence and products where others had their hands on), but I wanted a razor that at least looks a bit like Your cool and unaffordable Wade&Butchers and I got them for just a few bucks.
I also need some "learn-toys".

One is a "Friedrich Schrick" (Friedr. Schrick on the tang). Either it has honemarks from its long and busy life or someone did his first honing exercises on her.
I could not find anything about that brand. Even google had no answer (at least not on the first few pages). Has anyone seen or heard of them?



It has remainders of rust, but the edge is free of that. I'm not sure what to do with that blade. Some Autosol made it shine really well, but the pitting of course remains unless I do grinding. I must admit, I like blades with pitting. Why not see their age? However the combination of perfect shine and pitting somehow is not good.

I could sand the blade with fine paper and make it satin. That would probably make the pitting a bit less obvious. Then polish tang and spine. Probably a bit tricky due to the curve towards the tang.

First thing however is the tip. This spike really is rectangular and I'm not sure, if that's the way they made it or if that is tribute to straight honing. The sharp edge goes directly to the very tip and I can hardly believe that shaving without cutting is possible at all.



Any tips, comments, ideas are gladly welcome.


The second is this one:



someone tried his new buffer on it, but then not thorough enough to remove the etching completely. No idea what this is. The tang says



P 3 FORD (?)

Here some information about your second razor, http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...rd-razors.html

Originally Posted by Martin103

Here some information about your second razor, http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...rd-razors.html

Wow... that's how they once looked, lovely. Thanks for the link

There were a number of Schricks who made razors:



Friedrich Schrick figures in the 1920 address book, above. The other firm - Carl Schrick, Sohn had been in Kasernenstrasse since at least 1901. Friedrich was still at the same address - Vereinsstrasse 31 - in 1925:



but by 1931 the same address was occupied by another Schrick:



It seems that the Schrick dynasty still occupy the address, as well as Vereinsstrasse 31a.

Regards,
Neil

Neil,

Off topic:
is there a way to see answers to my posts or threads? I get notified when someone likes my stuff but not when he / she replies or thanks'sss.
I have "subscriptions" and get emails for all subscribed threads, but that's a hundred messages a day...

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

There were a number of Schricks who made razors:...It seems that the Schrick dynasty still occupy the address, as well as Vereinsstrasse 31a.

Amazing thanks. I'll give them a call on Monday - Solingen-20588

Any idea about the tip?

Frank

Frank,

I think the tip was meant to be that way. A variation of a barbers notch in what would otherwise be a square tip. The slanted end to the spine is called a 'grob' and often accompanies the notch. I have seen similar shaped tips, but nothing so 'brutally' squared-off as yours! However, if there is not a large gap between blade tip and wedge when closed then I think it is original.

I doubt that you will have any luck with that telephone number - it was for 1931!

There are other Schricks using that address today, and I think an Import/Export business of some sort is run from there as well as a plamt and machinery business. As the number and address are freely given in German advertising sites (Telebuch Solingen, YouBuy.com, YellowBook.de and others), I see no reason not to reproduce a clipping from one and here:

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At Vereinsstrasse 31A there are yet more Schricks listed: Elke, Wolfram, Norbert, Florian and Heike. Michael Schrick is at Vereisstr. 28. They must have been/are prominent traders in the area.

No idea re: notifications, etc. One of the more experienced like HNSB, JimmyHAD, Bruno, etc, would know the answer to that.

Regards,
Neil

Neil,

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

I think the tip was meant to be that way. A variation of a barbers notch in what would otherwise be a square tip. The slanted end to the spine is called a 'grob' and often accompanies the notch. I have seen similar shaped tips, but nothing so 'brutally' squared-off as yours! However, if there is not a large gap between blade tip and wedge when closed then I think it is original.

Thanks a lot for the information. That's what I meant. I'm sure the tip was meant to be kind of rectangular, but the one's I have seen so far have the tip at least "broken". This one is a spike even under the loupe and I guess that's from really straight honing without any whiping at the end of the stroke.

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

I doubt that you will have any luck with that telephone number - it was for 1931!

Yes, I was kidding

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

There are other Schricks using that address today, and I think an Import/Export business of some sort is run from there as well as a plamt and machinery business. As the number and address are freely given in German advertising sites (Telebuch Solingen, YouBuy.com, YellowBook.de and others), I see no reason not to reproduce a clipping from one and here:...

These I found before I posted this thread. I just found no reference or images about the razors.

You should never clip those. They're all copyrighted and the companies (at least some) obviously do active research. An image like that cost a friend of mine 4,000.-€. His web-designer (unfortunately just another friend, who did his website for a few bucks) had placed it in the "contact" section.

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

At Vereinsstrasse 31A there are yet more Schricks listed: Elke, Wolfram, Norbert, Florian and Heike. Michael Schrick is at Vereisstr. 28. They must have been/are prominent traders in the area.

Hmmm... if there really is that little knowledge about those razors, maybe I really should try to contact the one or the other and see if I can dig up something. I'll see how I get along with this one. If I ruin it, I'll better keep my mouth shut

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

No idea re: notifications, etc. One of the more experienced like HNSB, JimmyHAD, Bruno, etc, would know the answer to that.

It does not belong in this section, just almost overlooked Your answer, as there is a lot of traffic here. I check "Last started threads" every now and then. That helps a little.


Regards,

Frank

That's interesting about your friend being fined. I took this from a freely searchable database - youbuy.com - that is open to anyone with a computer. As it in no way benefits me, is in the open for all to see, is there to promote Solingen, is tweeted and shown on several social media sites and I have indicated that they are the owners, then good luck to them. But being a timid soul I have removed their image! They don't call me courageous for...well, they just don't call me courageous!

Regards,
Neil

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

That's interesting about your friend being fined. I took this from a freely searchable database - youbuy.com - that is open to anyone with a computer. As it in no way benefits me, is in the open for all to see, is there to promote Solingen, is tweeted and shown on several social media sites and I have indicated that they are the owners, then good luck to them. But being a timid soul I have removed their image! They don't call me courageous for...well, they just don't call me courageous!

It has been a few years since that, but currently a lot is happening in the blogging-scene. Bloggers normally don't harm anyone nor do they earn money with their blogs. They pick up bits and pieces here and there find curious or funny things and talk about them. Still, unless a source is not pd, cc or thelike, it belongs to someone who can claim money for third party usage. The sword of Damocles hanging over all this as everyone does it, but that does not make it less infringement of rights.

Its really crazy. We run a cultural portal where theatres, museums, concerts and galeries are listed with lots of information. If we get a picture from a galery that has been taken by photographer (even if it is just the shop from the outside) who had not actively granted the rights to a) give it to a third party b) presentation in the web c) for the time we present it there, the photographer can claim money from us, even if the galery had given it to us with "yes, You may, I asked the photographer". I might in a second step sue the galery if that was not correct, but that has no influence on the photographer's rights in the first place.
Same with texts, that are not just technical description.

We actually had a case where a galery - who's owner is a friend of us - had a vernissage but he was too lazy to update his profile on our site. So we did it for him and used some of the descriptions from his website (like two, three paragraphs), not knowing that it had been written by a journalist for him. He was happy and thankful, and three days later a 400,- € bill came from the journalist. He talked to her "hey they did it for me", but she was not impressed and we had to pay.

If You use a map like You did, and do that so that the map actually comes from their site, I think it is OK. However if You take a snapshot, save that as a picture and publish this, You're violating their copyright, especially when You not put a link with reference to the source below it.
Linking makes sure the copyright is shown etc.

This is highly complicated and very, very, very dangerous.

The big companies run departments that do nothing but these sues. I once received a bill over 15.000 € (Fifteenthousand) from one of the big image-companies. We had a few stupid little images (umbrellas, computer keyboards, ... unnecessary stuff that sometimes is used to blow up content) on our website belonging to an article of one of our suppliers. Unfortunately our vendor had not licensensed those images from the image source. So around 150 dealers, who had published this article on their website got sued (not by the supplier, by the image source-company) ... boy that had been a long struggle.