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That's exactly what I'm talking about. We're talking about inexperienced honers right? So that's a good example of something that might drive a new honer nuts. If they breadknifed they'd have a known...

Because you don't know if you have a bevel or not. That's the problem. If you are not capable of determining that then you want a sure method of achieving a known starting point/condition. I think it...

Sounds great to me. From what you describe it would be the best of everything.

Only thing I could see is that it's still subjective. There are the hair tests but I gather they're not definitive...

Aha! It IS a traditional technique. :D

I don't know... many are very set against breadknifing but most of those will make the exception that it's appropriate in extreme cases and or for frowns/smiles. Seems the main argument against is...

Ouch. I wonder if that might have effected the temper?

Well... you guys are mostly speaking from experience with acquired skills. I can see some advantages to breadknifing for a newbie.

Yes, it's probably going to remove way more material than...