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Scott, if i mistated or came off wrong I am sorry, i was only trying to explain what I did and why I did it or didnt do it, that s why i said in my reply that I needed to go back an re-read because I...

I only used the flattening stone for the nortons, for the chinese I used the sandpaper and granite

I tried to use no pressure, but I think i need work in this area

I just read your revised...

tommorow I am going to try again, if I overhoned, then I should be able to backhone and try again right?

I have several razors that i let get too dull (the others I have been maintaining with a swaty) so I realized it was time to work on learning honing, and while I have no issues keeping my knives...