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03-09-2009, 01:48 AM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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Hopefully we can devise tests that we can do with...
Hopefully we can devise tests that we can do with just a strop and razor, using our face as the test instrument - these are the conditions in which we hope to make use of this information, after all....
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03-09-2009, 12:13 AM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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Actually Verhoeven's photos do show teeth, but...
Actually Verhoeven's photos do show teeth, but only when honed with fairly coarse grit hones. As the hones got finer and the size of the scratches became comparable to the thickness of the edge then...
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03-08-2009, 03:09 PM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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It may take more laps than that. Remember we're...
It may take more laps than that. Remember we're talking about reversing a process that takes a week or two to dull an edge, during which time it has recieved a thousand or more laps on the...
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03-08-2009, 02:53 PM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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I don't know. This is a problem with that part...
I don't know. This is a problem with that part of the paper.
The Verhoeven paper wasn't published in a peer-reviewed journal, it was just a write-up of some experiments he did ,and if it... -
03-08-2009, 04:52 AM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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Steel at razor levels of hardness isn't terribly...
Steel at razor levels of hardness isn't terribly plastic at all, and the temperatures needed to significantly increase plasticity will kill the temper. It's possible that a good stropping on leather...
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03-08-2009, 03:18 AM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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I don't think the leather strop does anything but...
I don't think the leather strop does anything but align the edge. Neither Verhoeven nor the Modern Mechanics article from the 20's showed any sort of steel flow or stretching. Verhoeven also shows...
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03-06-2009, 02:56 AM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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But that report didn't say which side of the...
But that report didn't say which side of the strop was abrasive. The two reports are consistent if the linen side of the strop is the abrasive side.
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02-26-2009, 06:22 AM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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The stropping-on-plain-leather experiment was...
The stropping-on-plain-leather experiment was done in two different parts of the test (honing and tormek) in two different conditions (lab and a workshop) by two different people (Verhoeven and...
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02-26-2009, 03:36 AM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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He didn't post the edge dimension. But if the...
He didn't post the edge dimension. But if the strop couldn't even straighten out the burrs it's unlikely to have drawn out the thicker bevel.
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02-26-2009, 01:55 AM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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Hmm, we're talking about the same document. I...
Hmm, we're talking about the same document. I just went back through it searching for "felt" and it appears that I was mistaken and he used the white bar on the felt and cloth in all experiments.
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02-25-2009, 09:28 PM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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Yes, plain hard felt did sharpen the edge - this...
Yes, plain hard felt did sharpen the edge - this could be clearly seen under the microscope. He was stropping with the blade slightly inclined, so the felt produced a secondary bevel, but presumably...
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02-25-2009, 06:32 PM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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He does test a commercial gillette blade and a...
He does test a commercial gillette blade and a straight razor honed by somebody that shaves with one at the very beginning of the article.
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02-25-2009, 06:26 PM
Thread: Verhoeven Paper Question
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I think it's the linen that's doing the work of...
I think it's the linen that's doing the work of sharpening the razor though. You'll notice that he also tested felt strops and they did sharpen the steel. He didn't test linen but I suspect they...
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