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  1. The C12k is natural, but yes you still have ways...

    The C12k is natural, but yes you still have ways to go in terms of HAD, there is coticules, Eschers, Jnats, CF and so on.
  2. It is very simple buy the norton(cheaper) and...

    It is very simple buy the norton(cheaper) and learn to use it, when you are good with it you can get another set Naniwa or GS if you want to further broaden your experience in honing.
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