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Used without a slurry, the Kitayama tends to leave a ragged edge, not even as smooth as a Norton 8K provides in the same time. This is a big part of why I decided to use mine for kitchen knives...

The Kitayama doesn't know it's not a jnat. Depending on your technique, and the length of time you spend on the stone, it's possible that you're actually going up in grit when you get to the Shapton,...

Ah, the wonderful world of the mid-range stones. Either of the stones you listed would be good as a pre-polisher, but there are lots of other options out there. You can always skip this range, but I...