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I appreciate that! But truth is, I learned most of what I know from Neil, and it's been Neil kicking me in the behind that's encouraged me to do better.

Hey now!

That's --

I mean --

Tudors, huh? Alright, fine. That's before my time. By a little bit.

That's a thing I've long wondered about. It had always seemed to me like the radical variation in styles started around 1820, but I've found earlier documentation showing blade designs from 1816, and...

If I were to guess what happened, I'd guess the forger rolled the die slightly. The crown itself should be symmetrical, and that distortion made the V ambiguous. Mattluthier's razor cinches it for me.

Hurrah! That's exactly what I wanted, with bonus clarification on the crown stamp!

Looks like I was getting thrown by a slightly squidgy pressing (note on mine the crown proportions are off-center...

Heh, yeah, I'm not really expecting to see another example (though really, even non Elliots would be welcome! I'm pretty sure I've seen a Joseph Rodgers with this tang too).

If you right click and...

Okay, this is more of a show and ask... And when it's me asking if anyone's seen a Joseph Elliot like this, you know it's going to be good...
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