Thread: Unusual Joseph Elliot. Anyone seen one like it?

Okay, this is more of a show and ask... And when it's me asking if anyone's seen a Joseph Elliot like this, you know it's going to be good...



I can't recall ever seeing one with that sort of tang -- and it's fully original, as both the top and the bottom are fully jimped.

The scales on this one are not original, and ideally I'd like to make a new set more in keeping with the original design. The problem is that I have no idea what that was. My intuition is that this was a fancier model, so possibly ivory scales.

Also noteworthy, I think that's not a VR on the blade, but a partial stamp WR, placing this in the 1830-1837 vicinity.

Very cool tang. I have a feeling this is going to be a quiet thread :<0) If the V is really a W it sure would put it off center of the crown a bit. Just an observation :<0) You know those marks better than anybody I know. I will be noticing next time I see a W R .

Originally Posted by 10Pups

Very cool tang. I have a feeling this is going to be a quiet thread :<0) If the V is really a W it sure would put it off center of the crown a bit. Just an observation :<0) You know those marks better than anybody I know. I will be noticing next time I see a W R .

Heh, yeah, I'm not really expecting to see another example (though really, even non Elliots would be welcome! I'm pretty sure I've seen a Joseph Rodgers with this tang too).

If you right click and 'view image' you can see a high res version that makes all the stamps clearer. There's no doubt a WR would be off center, but look at the other text on the blade face! It's some interestingly... non-professional typesetting!

Really nice

Very cool piece!

Here's mine with original horn scales and it's clearly marked with a "VR" stamp. I really like the feel of this razor and it shaves great!

I can't tell whether it's a V or W..

Originally Posted by bongo

I can't tell whether it's a V or W..

I have no knowledge of these razors but the VR is centered under the crown, where a WR would not be.

Originally Posted by mattluthier

Here's mine with original horn scales and it's clearly marked with a "VR" stamp. I really like the feel of this razor and it shaves great!

Hurrah! That's exactly what I wanted, with bonus clarification on the crown stamp!

Looks like I was getting thrown by a slightly squidgy pressing (note on mine the crown proportions are off-center too).

VR it is, then!

And classic Elliot scales.

Originally Posted by Hart

I have no knowledge of these razors but the VR is centered under the crown, where a WR would not be.

If I were to guess what happened, I'd guess the forger rolled the die slightly. The crown itself should be symmetrical, and that distortion made the V ambiguous. Mattluthier's razor cinches it for me.