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Right on the holtzapffel, it's not the first edition. I thought the first one was from before 1843, but I don't have the first one in print. I have an edition that is later yet than the 1850 edition,...

Hopefully this works. The text I'm referring to is on page 1153, they mention 40 to 60 degrees and this striking being done in one single pass (i.e., it would barely produce wear on the edge) and...

I have a thought on the second steeper bevel that a cutler or razor maker would've put on the razor, in terms of how it was classically done. Holzapffel III describes in honing a razor (at which time...