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    Where you've found them is of little importance....

    Where you've found them is of little importance. I have found (and bought, naturally) labeled, unused Thuringians (not Eschers, different, blue label) in antique shops in Corfu, and a coticule in...
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    None of them is a Cretan or Turkey, they classic...

    None of them is a Cretan or Turkey, they classic type of stone. For the smaller stone, I have seen its type somewhere, try it and see how it fits on your progression.
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