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    You know I think that is a very valid point and...

    You know I think that is a very valid point and one newbies should take better notice of. If a newbie's lather is poor 9 out of 10 times it is not the soap's fault and buying uber expensive soaps...
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    Right up there with Arko for a good yet...

    Right up there with Arko for a good yet inexpensive soap, not cream, would be Palmolive shave stick, LEA shave stick and Speick shave stick all of which are tallow based. A step up in price but good...
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