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    Ok figured it out I think, went by ur...

    Ok figured it out I think, went by ur recommendations .. Shaving smoother I believe the against the grain on face problem is more my style of shaving rather than the razor!
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    over honed

    I recently honed two razors. Lathered and tried shaving pulling and just horrible shaves.
    ok then went back to the hones did a conservative pyramid hone on one.This razor now shaves wtg, xtg nicely....
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