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Thanks for the reply, I tried to stick with the advice of most people and only go as far as the 8k hone, I succeeded in getting a shave-able (not shaveREADY) edge, in that I can shave with it...

Another nice score gooser =] How many coticules is that now? I only have 3 I think that will be enough for a while. Only one is with me at the moment and I'm yet to try it, I just honed up a razor up...