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Agree, the only reason that I bought the modern 12k was as kind of a ‘reference’ stone.

Marty, if you’re interested in the 8ks, try the 8k Shapton Glass High Carbon. I loaned mine to Brian Brown...

I don’t have the Naniwa 8k, but I have both the 10k and the 12k (modern white version). The only 8k that I really am OK with the edge from is the Shapton Glass High Carbon (HC, the grey one). There’s...