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What he said!!

But if intelligent design, and the hand behind intelligent design are true, wouldn't that make them scientific, and shouldn't science consider this?

You just can't keep a good thread down!
Jockeys, if you keep talking that way...well. lets just say I know some people who know some people...if you get my meaning.;):D

I'm sure it's ok Slow;):D

My brother from another mother!!!

Say hello to your nephew Lee when you get a chance!;)

I am not certain of what you are saying, but holy books stand as a witness, not necessarily proof! The people who wrote those books are just that, people who are fallible, as are scientists, by the...

Bad, stupid, or poor formed religion does not negate God!

I am not, nor have argued against the science and mechanisms by which Man, or anything else sprang into being, but who supplied the building blocks? Who flipped the switch, as it were?

And yet Man sprang into being from nothing!

Oh SNAP!! As someone here is fond of saying!

But your missing something Russel. To us who believe in a Grand Designer, the whole universe and everything that happens in our universe is evidence of our belief!

Thats fine jockeys, but I would like to see you address the spirit of his argument!

I really like this thread! I wonder who started it?:w

Interesting question! If you just reach your thought process a little farther you might come up with the idea that those same forces may also be clouding your vision and directing your thoughts! I...

This is absolutely true! I find that many believe in God because they were taught to without any real understanding!

To me God is clearly real! I see evidence where ever I look! I'm not certain...

Hutch, I agree that the best course of action is to let it drop as you seem to be indicating, but please don't blow it so out of proportion at the same time that you are professing to take the high...

Come on guys! This is a God thread not a sci-fi thread...





...Besides, anyone with a modicum of rational thought knows that Star Trek TNG kicks but on all those pretenders to the throne!;)

Thank you Jim.

Lets not turn this thread upside down please. keep it civil!

Thank you all for participating! Once again we have proven that we can all be gentlemen while dealing with such an explosive topic!
Maybe someone will bump it again in a year or so. We'll see.

Thanks Lee for bringing things back to the topic!
I was truly beginning to despair that people were missing the point!

Thanks again!

Sometimes I like Vlad!;):D:roflmao I crack myself up!

This thread has over 300 posts! Most are very civil and some are borderline but still acceptable! it would be a shame to see this thread closed over one or two Hot moments! Please continue to keep it...

All definitions given require one ingredient, and that is belief! Faith is a strong belief in anything!

Russel, I think you know better than that! If you have followed my posts on any topic you will find nothing short of directness!

Faith to me has one meaning! If you can supply me with more than...

I guess you guys put a lot of faith in your argument huh?;):D

Since you guys ( mischeivous and Russel) assumed that my point was a false analogy I will assume that you completely missed my point and make myself clear! So, here goes:
What is, is. What is not,...