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Yes, but my point was that pattern welded steel was originally an imitation damascus and not the real stuff, where as the Japanese laminated steels were originally done for strength and flexibility...

The Japanese have been laminating steel for some time now so maybe thats not a good example but rather a seperate process which create damascus like features

Damascene=damascus like but not true damascus.
As I understand it the true damascus is a lost art and what we make today such as pattern welded damascus, laminated steel, and other methods are only...