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Thank you Cosperryan. And I think I worked out the bugs in the system.

Bug #1 = I didn't know how to shave with a straight. Learning the feel for a different shave takes time and practice (and...

Went back to my black arkie and I'm getting my edges a LOT sharper than the 4000/8000 Norton was. It'll shave arms clean right off that stone but a no go for facial hair (shaves but not close and...

Tried it again with my arkie and it was cutting arm hairs right off the stone. Then I went to felt (no compound) glued to a dead flat jointed board and it was cutting even better (arm hairs). Then I...

The interesting thing is that when I strop I can hear the edge singing on one side after the Norton. I never got that with the Arkies. This seems like it'd have to be a technique thing (i.e. user...

Just picked up a Norton 4000/8000 and I'm actually getting a worse edge post sharpening than my arkies were giving. With the Surgical Black Arkie, I could cut arm hairs post sharpening. With this, it...

I think you are right on. I'm going to send it out to a pro who's extended an appreciated helping hand. I wish I had another straight so I could send that one to Euclid who's also offered. Seeing an...

That part I was mindful of (keeping it cool when grinding). Didn't think about that it was hardened (which of course it needs to be) and that bending it would mean I get two razors for the price of...

Ahh! Interesting. You know... I didn't even think about temper when I tried to bend it, until it was too late! Now I know.

My razor wasn't crooked on the tang though. It was actually the spine....

Euclid, I think this is the scratch pattern from the black arkie. I ran it way longer than normal to make sure it was what I was seeing. One thing to remember is that this is at 50x magnification in...

Well, I've not given up. I'm still working on getting where it needs to be and the latest...

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Well something bad happened tonight! I read a tutorial on making a Gold Dollar into a useable...

I just sharpened using the black after a flattening. I'd say there are still spots that are .002" out of flat here and there and sort of convex (rise in the center, dipping edges VERY slightly).
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My stone hasn't earned it's 40 years patina yet. Yours looks like something that would get handed down through the generations. Hopefully my kids won't throw mine out after I'm dead... lol:) Not that...

Ha ha and sorry! I felt a little misunderstood on a post or two about what I was trying to accomplish with the course grit (reshape) and ended up getting in defense mode. Sorry! I'll chill out now......

Right! I mispoke there or wasn't specific enough. I meant by 'wet' (generically), the usual abrasive block stones sold by Norton, Shapton, and the like.

Right and all of my grit statements made were regarding the diamond blocks. I mentioned the black arkie is likely ballpark to 3-4k (compared to sharpening tools using similar wet/dry sandpaper taped...

They're pretty big (4x8 I believe). And they were factory lapped. I haven't worn them to the point that they've hollowed yet. I started with oils because they didn't require as much flattening as the...

The picture you posted is basic and applies to all sharpening. If I could see a reflection looking straight onto the edge/bevel, the blade wouldn't cut anything (maybe butter). There is no reflection...

I used the angle of the razor (spine and edge) flat against the stone through all the grits (200 to get back to a slight smile, 400, 600, soft ark, black ark).



I figured looking at the...

Not trying to sound rude but that's not what I wrote in the earlier post. I used the 200 grit to put a smile back into the blade since it was out of shape (i.e. used it to reshape only). I worked...

Good comparison! I almost ordered a Norton 4/8k when I first got into working with wood hand tools. I went oils instead since they don't require as much dressing to keep flat. I guess I should have...

Good to know! I've seen Norton ultra fine wet stones and was impressed. I know in Ark stones, there's also a translucent which is finer than the Black. I may consider that. But at $300 for a 5x10...

That's good to know. Thanks! Seems like my soft ark is somewhere in the range of 1000 grit (and slow cutting at that) and the black is probably a little finer yet (maybe 3000 or 4000) I can still see...

That would be a big jump, no I brought it back up through to the black (200, 300, 400, 600, soft ark, then black).

I used the 5/8" width of the blade and it's natural angle as the bevel set (no...

EDIT: I've taken a lot of flack for this post! I think I have stated in this post why I used 200 grit (reshaping/not honing or sharpening) then went through the grits to get back to ark black, but...

lol on the 2 months for an Ark stone! You'd not be kidding! I've also got diamond stones for roughing things out and a wet grinder for really rough things. But I don't think I'd touch the razor to...