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thx and i will look at those also. Still I was impressed with the DMT-E and so were a few blades.
Always trying to improve skills & understanding, cuz every girls crazy bout a sharped dressed man

Following the advice in "A Simple Honing Method" a DMT-E appeared at my door.
Frugally I bought the 2x6" model instead of the larger one.
WOW-E, this does wonders on blades I had given up for...