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    I will have to take a rain check on that one, I...

    I will have to take a rain check on that one, I am working this weekend so I cant stay up late. My responses will be spotty over the weekend but I will be more present starting Monday. I aint going...
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    I absolutely did. And guess what never got covid...

    I absolutely did. And guess what never got covid wearing one :) I still wear my mask in the hospital despite being vaccinated. Have you seen any posts of mine speaking against masking?
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    Oh I was proven wrong. Yeah all those medical...

    Oh I was proven wrong. Yeah all those medical experts proven wrong. That's why I come here to get my news and info from you.
    Like I said, dude please. You have no idea. Just because you read couple...
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    Oh virtue flag waving. Sure. Where did I see that...

    Oh virtue flag waving. Sure. Where did I see that before, oh post #352, virtue signaling. Seems we are all signaling and flag waving here. Thank you for pointing that out.

    Oh CA and MN are not...
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    You have no idea. Where they vaccinate the cases...

    You have no idea. Where they vaccinate the cases are down. Doesnt fit the narrative hey. I bet it bothers the antivaxxers. At least it looks like it bothers you the way you keep attacking everyone...
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    Ok this is getting old but will try once again. ...

    Ok this is getting old but will try once again.

    - You said Biden's America so since he is the fed I asked where is Biden making people take vaccines or firing them for not taking one. No answer...
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    Great. Now we have reached elementary school...

    Great. Now we have reached elementary school level type of arguing. :shrug: I thought you could do better than that.
    So once again, show me the federal mandate. Since you are just responding with...
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    Well I have no idea what's going on in Idaho but...

    Well I have no idea what's going on in Idaho but as I said we don't have any mandates here. I work with nurses who have opted not to get vaccinated, yes they are all working and nobody is forcing...
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    Joe Biden is making hospitals fire medical...

    Joe Biden is making hospitals fire medical workers? Please tell me more. I live in a blue state but as far as I know there are no vaccine mandates. No mandates by the state that I am aware of and...
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    Sorry to hear that Paul. Condolences to the...

    Sorry to hear that Paul. Condolences to the family.
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    I have encountered 2 patients that were...

    I have encountered 2 patients that were reinfected, I think it was June 2020 and then December for the one, the other one I dont remember the dates. Both actually had a worse course during the second...
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    Mercy in Springfield, SW Missouri. They are...

    Mercy in Springfield, SW Missouri. They are getting hit hard. From an ICU charge nurse post, none of the ICU Covid patients has been vaccinated. None.

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    I think the answer is yes and yes. At least...

    I think the answer is yes and yes. At least that's what the numbers that MDH was releasing were showing. Once the vaccines started the higher age groups went flat while the other age groups were...
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    Yeah the numbers have improved significantly. In...

    Yeah the numbers have improved significantly. In the past few weeks I only had 4 vented patients, 3 not vaccinated and one unlucky who got covid few days after the first dose.
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    I used to live in SW Missouri. Only one guy from...

    I used to live in SW Missouri. Only one guy from my old group stayed, somehow everybody else except me moved to Texas. Well the guy from MO said they are seeing high numbers again. Then this morning...
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    My take on it, and I dont claim expertise. They...

    My take on it, and I dont claim expertise. They have no idea so they are taking the safe route.
    Some people wont get reinfected but some will. I have seen patients have low symptom covid in June...
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    I dont see your posts as argumentative. Actually...

    I dont see your posts as argumentative. Actually having a discussion is great. Just trying to share some things I have learned.
    Honestly I had no idea about mRNA vaccines until COVID showed up,...
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    Well I was referring to the mRNA vaccines. As far...

    Well I was referring to the mRNA vaccines. As far as I am aware the serious side effects they are describing are seen in the Astra and J&J vaccines which are based on a viral vector.

    Here is an...
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    This is again turning into a gotcha thread like...

    This is again turning into a gotcha thread like the one that was deleted. Few observations before I depart.

    A. These vaccines were not rushed. They have been in the making, the technology is not...
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    The protection from suing over vaccine side...

    The protection from suing over vaccine side effects started in the 80's. They did set up a fund for some compensation when people had injury, we know a family that their kid got vaccine injury that...
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    All I knowns is that they have been given some...

    All I knowns is that they have been given some pretty strong immunity. Be it the NCVIA or PREP.
    But since I am not a lawyer nor a judge I will just sit back and watch what happens.
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    Just FYI you cant sue Pharma over vaccines. The...

    Just FYI you cant sue Pharma over vaccines.
    The rest, oh well, not sure what to say.

    63% of eligible Minnesotans have gotten at least one dose. Numbers are down. Life is returning back tp...
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    It's not the dying. Not sure why the only option...

    It's not the dying. Not sure why the only option is death or survival. I can show you scores of patients that didnt die. They are suffering from post COVID syndrome unable to work, PTSD for the ones...
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    I think we are learning new things about...

    I think we are learning new things about respiratory viruses with this one. For example, I dont think there was ever a respiratory virus that people were being tested so much like this one.

    Like...
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    Masks, lock downs etc were only meant to slow the...

    Masks, lock downs etc were only meant to slow the spread so too many people wouldn't get sick at the same time.
    Right now talking to the infectious specialists at the hospital, they expect to see a...
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