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If I can't get a patina on the steel... poopy

For me the steel will end up being the breaking point for me. I'm to much of a carbon junkie :) If it isn't carbon I'll go another route. The thought of trying to get that fine an edge on shiny steel...

I've VERY interested if it's CARBON :D not that I would be interested if it ended up with the shiny stuff, just not as interested.

Just about all the work I've seen from Livi has been great. I...