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uh....yeah, and niether did the guy who painted the sistine chapel....i think that was Michaelangelo (SP*).

GOTTA LOVE IT...was my buddies back ground for a while.

Jsut so you know...the actual painting doesn't have the flying spaghetti monster. hahaha

WOW, sory, but did you read what I posted. Religion doesn't have a monopoly on morality or ethics. Thats just not true. There are many, many, many, many theories of ethics that rely on things...

ok, just putting in my 2 Cents. Thought you were putting forth your beliefs. My mistake.




Bah! Grammar---It's just a convention.

You said earlier that you think god is the entirety of existence, well, then you have nailed it down haven't you?

My point is just that saying god is existence is like saying a duck is a...

"As to Bpatton's assertions:

You assert that what exists now, has always existed, and will always exist, because there is nothing but existence. that is just as simple an answer to this question...

there doesn't have to be a beggining. Everything that is, has always been and will always be. It just changes form.

No there is not some designer. I have no proof and no arguement for this, just like you have no proof or valid arguement for your position. Thats just what I am saying. There is no way to know...

The concept of god is a logical contradiction, and cannot exist if logic is acurate. To believe in god you must believe logic is not accurate. Hence the saying I am the ALpha and the Omega.

interesting how my post has been completely ignored

Where everything came from?

--This one is easy. What exists now has always existed and will always exist because there is nothing but existence. However, the form of its existence is ever...

Well, I am an Atheist. So I will probably be the first one skined.

It boils down to this in an over simplified manner: perfection cannot exist. If people are interested in that statement then...