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When your drinking you have to call it a 7 and 7. Lol..

I have heard on another forum that they have and they work quite well. There is still the argument that the 16k isn't made for razors. But I don't use them so I didn't pay much attention to it....

They are proven stones. They've been around a long while. The sevens are new I know. But their characteristics are similar enough. I did buy the 30k. Great deal. $105 or so compared to $360 or so for...