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Thank you everyone for all the insight into this topic. I will probably try a few of the things mentioned here and if and when i ever find one in the wild that i like i will get it and have one....

Yep the way i look at things is if im meant to have one then i will but if not i wont so i dont worry about it because things work out how they are meant to be...i either face or bowl lather...

I wasnt trying to be cheap i was just saying i prefer to spend on the kids and not myself and was looking for inexpensive because i have never tried one and i dont know if i will like it or even want...

Thanks. And yes they probably do have kids. I was just explaining why i was looking for inexpensive.

hello all i have never tried one and am looking for inexpensive because the 5 yr old twins and 11 yr old get most of daddys money... any thoughts?