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It just occurred to me that when I hone with the stone in the bench I put the razor down and add water with my right hand. I bet it extends my honing sesson by about 15 seconds.

Still learning naturals, well a natural. But that'll send this thread in a whole new direction if I don't keep my mouth shut :).

My stones are way too thirsty.

Hahaha, fortunately I compartmentalize everything. I've got mental folders for all yall and if one method isn't working, I try the try another. There is certainly overlap in yall's files, though. ...

With all my four razors of experience I put the razor down. Otherwise you lose the water when you try to pick up the stone.

But, I generally check my edge when I run out of water, so I just put...

Hmm, so you shorten the blade?

Maybe what I'm looking at were not blunted toes, or at least properly blunted. There have been a couple of square points that the last 1/4" or so seem to be so...

If I put the stone on a kitchen scale and hone I can...

But, without in hand training not much to do but play with it and figure it out myself. When I started razor honing I read someone say...

Real quick thought progression on this.
1. Give me a break. That can't possibly work.
2. Well dummy, that's what you said before and he was right.
3. OK, I'll try.

The harder I try the harder it is to explain. Let me start with that I think we are probably talking about the same thing. It's just hard because it is all subjective. Also, I haven't honed with...

Hi Euclid,

First Thanks for the info and detail. Let me break this down a bit.

"First you can not equate freehand sharpening a knife with an X stroke to honing a razor, as you have in your...

I want to thank yall again. I finally got around to getting the stones flattened out and got an evening to hone. I got one of my uneven razors honed up and shaved. I really appreciate the help.

Ha, I didn't take it as not to have a go. More of a caution that if I don't know how to do the easy ones, not going to get the hard ones done right. Learn to fall before you learn to walk, that...

My first razor I honed was shave ready when I bought it. I didn't hone it until after it was no longer shave ready though. It's a Col. Conk i got in the early 2000s. But, I had a full beard for...

It is funny, I thought about making the heel match the toe, but in the end did not think that it would look good. This was a before picture. I have "reshaped" the heel. I spent an evening going...

To be fair, you asked for one of the worst examples. That one has not made it into the "to be honed" bucket. I am having trouble with razors in much better shape than that one :). But, there are...

I didn't know shorties existed before I got here. But, I do not have any of the equipment to make a shorty. Not sure what that equipment is, but I know I don't have it. Even if I wanted to just...

I appreciate your experience and reject it :). More precisely, I am delaying it.

First, let me say it is funny you popped in here. The razor that started this thread was the beautiful one you...

Those guys just had no vision of the future! That is interesting, though. I have been trying to figure out how someone would do this on accident. To me, nothing in this hobby feels more obviously...

It was 90% joke. Someone on here has a signature that says "there are many paths to sharp", which I am a big fan of. There are many different philosophies on here and I play with all of them and...

The MMT is great.

I will not tell anyone that I use a second hand, I get in trouble for that :). That said, I have found that grabbing the left over tape off the toe is a good way to stabilize...

Crap. Is there a section for that?

Short version: I think I was putting all this together to use the gymnastics required to an even "bevel" along the edge. Mark the edge and do some...

I think this is well said. And yeah, honing the box of different razors is the problem. Up to now all my razors have been very well behaved. I rocked a few razors as Cres City said and noticed my...

Cool. I have seen this discussed and tried it, but never really thought about focusing only on that water. I have a tendency to draw my focus more on the blade then. I gotta think to look more at...

I think that is sort of how I figured out the feeling I was trying to describe.

You donated it to a museum?