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That is The Human Condition. We are born, we live our lives, and at the end of them:

We are all alone.
There is no one who can help us.
We die.

Jesus on the cross was abandoned by his...

Russel, thanks for taking the time to answer our posts in a thoughtful, non-condescending manner. Even though our views differ, I have enjoyed the discussion. :)

Well, to me that is like saying my lungs, my liver, and my left ventricle are "Me." The way I look at it, all those things are a part of me, just as nature is a part of God.

Russel, what about a "natural creator?" Some of us (even scientists like Einstein) see God working in and through nature. Nothing "supernatural" about it; it's as natural as anything else.

I believe there is a God, and that we are his children. I wouldn't try to force that belief on anyone, but I will discuss it whenever and wherever I can, and not just in church. This is a part of who...