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I don't know why it takes so much honing on the razors you are doing Randy, but next time I'm in Minneapolis, I'll let you know and we can get together and go through some honing techniques. Lynn

When you start to use pressure, you start getting edges that are honed more in one spot than another, larger bevels in addition to worn down spines. I will only hone a razor for a few minutes a night...

I honed 6 new TI's this week and have done hundreds. I would never recommend 15 strokes on the 4K side of the Norton on a new one. Way too much!! I would never start out with more than 5 strokes....

Agree. Actually with a new one, it should not need more than a 3-3, 1-3, 1-3 or 1-5 on the Norton and then strop and shave. The key is the razor flat and no pressure both on the honing and stropping....