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The Japanese Naturals that I use are Asagi, Kiita and Ohzuku and as stated previously, I am only using water at this point. Sorry about this and for using such a limited amount of strokes.......:)
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With my natural stones, excluding the Chinese 12K, I normally will do 10-15 X strokes with water only following the 8K stone. If the razor is not there, I will usually do an additional 5 strokes up...