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I haven't been able to get one of those Eschers, but I do have a Droescher water hone, which is quite good. It has one of those rubbing stones.

I no longer use the Norton, except when I have a batch of razors to do, because dry honing is much more convenient.

Without a lot of lapping you an get the Lithide glass smooth. It's hard to...

The Eschers are waterstones, right?

Actually, when you're talking about the scale used for diamond paste, an 8K comes out 3 microns. Under 200x magnification the Swaty has a finer scratch pattern than an 8K Norton. It looks like it...

I own both of those, and they're definitely finishing hones if you keep them clean and flat. By comparison at 200x, they both have finer scratch patterns than the Norton. So, unless something was...

I'm with you when it comes to hones, and I started using a superfine and fine Spyderco on your recommendation. I also own an Idahone ceramic, which is supposed to be 12K (so far I haven't seen a...

If you were using a yellow Belgian (coticule), I can't imagine how this happened unless the stone is defective. Lynn considers these stones to somewhere around 12K, and it seems that way to me too. ...