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Ok, so then what does this mean below?

You don't claim to know, and yet you define it anyway :cry: Ok that is my cheap shot of the day :o

More on topic: Maybe it is just me that is getting a...

Enter hoglahoo!

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Is that what you used to tell them?

By the way I am with smokelaw, this thread is interesting!

Not when people keep linking to it from other threads :) :w

You know what they say: Smite makes right :cry:http://www.toddcomp.com/images/hammer.gif

No they are not too personal to share, but I think I am hesitant to do so on the internet. But generally it is a combination of personal experiences and heart to heart personal exchanges through...

nah :nj ;)

This thread is full of straw man arguments :p

Oh, yes I did misunderstand you. I'll go back to my sandbox now :)

xman, do you really think that believers know that there are no miracles but believe in them anyway? :rolleyes:
And I guess I know there is no God but I believe in him anyway... who is this "we" ?...

as the kids around here say,
OH SNAP![/quote]
Kids these days :gaah:

Those meddlers, having to point out the impossibility of miracles! Xman, to say we know miracles don't happen is to say we...

It certainly seems that way often. Often it doesn't though. This is something that would cause me to question God's existence if he hadn't proved himself to me, but like you have already mentioned,...

Wow, I didn't realize I said that, I must have been typing in my sleep! Although I do recall saying that God offers everyone answers about his existence if they will accept him.

I don't know for...

Russell,

I'm not arguing for religious establishment, I'm arguing that the study of nature doesn't conflict with believing in the existence of God. I thought you were using the long line of...

Actually, Franklin and Galileo were not strangers among the many scientists who through the centuries have believed in God's existence:


Where did God command that man should not explore his...

Yes, but I still think my analogy serves my point that believing is more than directly seeing. I am playing semantics to point out that there is more at work than that which can be directly observed...

I think what some are trying to say is that the concept of love is no different than the concept of God - an inner construct of ideas we use to help describe ourselves and the world around us. Maybe...

You don't say? lol :gaah:
And yet where do your choices come from? I am curious of those of you who have been participating in this thread whether or not you believe people's decisions and...

What you just said was not accepted as proof for thousands of years even though it was there looking people in the face all that time. As far as a better explanation, isn't that subjective? I think...

My brain is observable, but not directly by me :)


You can see X-rays?

Do you understand my point? What convinces you, what is good enough for proof is part of the matter at hand. When I see...

I don't believe in the unprovable, quite the contrary! That would indeed be fascinating! But I'm not sure if you really believe what you just said: When you feel something, why do you believe you...

I agree. Love is a decision. I discussed this earlier that yours and my freedom of choice is yet another immaterial yet rational quality in our lives. Love is a concept and although it is...

Not really, Russell. It's just like believing anything else. I didn't recognize the evidences as being evidences of God before I was open to discovering him. Electricity has always been around,...

Sure there is


If they aren't going to make themselves known to you, why do you have any reason to think they exist?


Based on feelings? Perish the thought! I wouldn't entrust my feelings...

#4 is where the hermano- herman- whatever, breaks down. Direct observation is not the end of conventional reason. Can you observe love? It isn't rational to think that watching chemical reactions...