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It's taken us 643 posts to find out that we just simply should have asked Hoglahoo in the first place?!
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OK.

Does the fact that the space shuttle is more complicated than say, a stone make it less real?

Who re-dug up this thread anyhow?!:confused:

Well, what if one of the new things to be learned is the possibility that an invisible friend in the sky did create the world?

Apply Ockham's razor to this:

In an inexplicable series of...

So, what was previously scientifically accepted as fact, is now scientifically abandoned no longer valid?

And yet to say that creationism should not be taught as being valid, as it lacks a...

Organized religion in many instances may have now become what you are proposing here.

But what about the early Christian Church?

The Disciples of Christ had just had their leader killed on...

How much more unlikely then is the idea that somehow, someway life sprung forth from the primordial ooze. And then that one newly formed life, formed by the slimmest of chances.....from that one, all...

Yup, you got the right thread here!;)

We need some new input, some fresh ideas, different points of view on things, welcome to the thread!

Again, this is a failing with PEOPLE. In this case the Pope. The Catholic church split from the Orthodox church in 1054. I have no interest (or knowledge to do so) in defending that idea, take it up...

So then how is it that higher complexity (i.e.-life) sprang out of lower complexity (primordial soup)?





In this thread, apparently at least Lee has run similar "experiments", observed...

You had referenced that Pope So and So had said "Blah de blah" about science, and he was flat out wrong. That shows that the guy knows nothing about science.

It does not show that he may know...

On "Observed Instances of Speciation", the paper begins with an overview of the fact that scientists have had a hard time actually coming to a conclusion on how to actually define "species".

It...

So someone being wrong about a subject outside of their area of expertise renders their knowledge of their area of expertise invalid?

(Not that I hold any of the popes' opinions in particularly...

:nono:right back at ya!

"...assumes no weight to plausibility"?

Hold on a minute, isn't that the crux of the whole issue? Plausibility is not fact. Whether it be scientific or theological....

Yes, actually someone should.

Just because a theory is popularly accepted by a peergroup, does not make it any more valid (or that would apply to religion as well). Nor the fact that someone is...

OK, I think I lost the train of thought of why I brought up the heart in the first place?:thinking:

I guess it was to do with the amount of emphasis being placed on "brain power" as the way to...

Experiments under controlled conditions yield fairly undeniable results. Theories such as evolution and the Big Bang draw conclusions by looking at circumstantial data.

Why is that accepted as...

Russel, you are making alot of interesting and excellent points.

However, the flaws that human beings have in interpreting and administrating God's laws,as per "organized religion" are human...

Gotcha. Nice summary.



For whosoever shall believe in Him?...
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I'm not sure I'm buying this explanation. An adrenaline rush feels a certain way (actually finding Suzy-Q with Billy-Joe-Bob, perhaps?...), heartache another.

Hmm, well God exists as a possibility then. Niether concretely provable nor improvable, which is the bottom line.

I have had experiences of God, but I cannot prove them. As said above, one of...

What causes heartache?

Have you ever experienced it? It is rather remarkable, as it is a physical sensation in your chest, not your head. You may be thinking "Why did my Suzy-Q dump me for...

A four year old is quite adept at this technique. They stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes, and shout "I can't hear you!" whilst stomping their feet, thus causing the parent urging...

Actually, quite appropo: Jockeys has done something that everyone who posts to this thread should do:


Go have their head examined!:rolleyes:

Er, your brain is observable..... but perhaps the mind, or intellect is not?:o