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Yeah, I had a transcendent moment standing over the Shakespeares' graves in Holy Trinity Church. I understood a little better how the pilgrims must have felt, traveling so far to see some relic. My...

Whether you accept it or not you do believe without knowing, but please don't misunderstand me. I don't call you delusional (though I may believe it). I merely suggest that until you can come to...

If you want to redefine what "to know" means you may isolated yourself from the rational argument and some may join you. Supernatural suppositions which cannot be corroborated are not known. No...

Then so are the accounts of people walking on water and raising the dead which we know doesn't happen.

We've defined these terms better already. In science, a theory is something which is credible, not just any old fairy story. I can't really argue with you until you've read the thread and visited the...

I at least can see the effects of love through a person's actions. I still see no tangible evidence of gods. The fact that you do not know what started the universe or what makes it awesome, doesn't...

I don't mean to be aggressive, but you're wrong on all counts, Akady. I'd like to encourage you to click the Critical Thinking link in my signature. I find it very helpful whenever somebody makes me...

Little Man is asleep in the sling right now. I'd put him down, but babies are like Dragons and Giants, they must frequently be mollified and when they are sleeping ... you let them sleep.

So, if...

I meant to mention also John Ralston Saul's excellent book On Equilibrium. In it he argues that the qualities through which we can know the natural world are six: common sense, ethics, imagination,...

And this is a very dangerous implication, that somehow one's intellect is Satanic, rooted in evil or a tool used by evil forces.

The Egyptian god Thoth was the god of learning and of the moon. The...

Thor's cool. They're making a movie Marvel is, 2011?

A favourite? I don't know there are so many good ones. I guess I'm pretty partial to Osiris. I like the ancient Egyptian sentiment. The land...

Plenty of written records on prominent people are extant from the period and throughout the Roman Empire. It is actually quite extraordinary that there is no mention of any such radical rabbi. I will...

Aw, c'mon Alex. You don't have an intellectual leg to stand on.
My rebuttal;
1. Only by popularity and with not a shred of actual evidence at all.
2. see 1.
3. Poppyc0ck
4. Here's your error....

I think Shakespeare calls it about right. He describes death as;

"The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns,"

and correctly identifies that it;

"puzzles the will"
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The Drake Equation.

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Alright. Let me just say this is giving me a right royal headache and we've completely missed the important points and are labouring over terms.


They are the natural order, naturally...

Greg, thank-you for having the clarity to say what I, too exhasperated with such arguments. could not find the strength to. Your wisdom is reassuring.


Currently 62.5% and falling.


That's...

Can't help discussing? Sure I can. Can't help being civil so far? You got me there.

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Pleasant dreams, (thus proving himself wrong so far) ...

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Since I'm not talking about opinions, no. I'm relating evidence. It's not my evidence so I cannot claim its 'rightness', only report the truth. You may accept or deny it as you will, I'm not certain...

There's nothing to not discuss. :thinking:

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No, you see the result of billions of years of natural evolution. Your pre-existing misconceptions about the nature of the universe lead you to misinterpret what you are observing. The first sentence...

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If we restrict the participants to those who share a general viewpoint then there can be a discussion within those views. Outsiders will not be understood. If the discussion is about...