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Yeah I agree that I have certanly honed much harder. I honed my first Torrey the same week that was maybe the hardest carbon I have ever honed in my limited time...setting the beval it was laughing...

I honed a King Cutter about 2 weeks ago and it was hard as h3ll. But it was brought from a butter knife it took 2 sesions to get it off the finish hone the way I wanted. Its a real sweety now...