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    Although I love my straights, and nothing compares, however, when I'm pressed for time or when I'm on the road I use a DE.If you are just starting out with a DE, a super speed (even better, one before 1954) is a good razor and relatively cheap; I travel with one and one of the benefits to DE is that there are still blades available (Walgreens, Wally CVS--passable quality)just about everywhere. A blade sampler pack, as others have mentioned, is good too.
    I just got a 1912 model Gem Jr. and was very pleasantly surprised at the shave using the Walgreen's Personna SE.

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    I agree with the idea of trying a single edge razor if you're going to try safety razors. Here is a good video going into detail about using an SE razor (this is for a Micromatic, but the same basic technique will work for other SE razors. Even the CVS brand of SE blades at your neighborhood CVS drug store are good blades.

    Micromatic Tips - YouTube

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    I have only one DE EJ89BA and I bought it out of curiosity more than anything. Sometimes, I use it for a final clean up pass, but mostly the straight razors get all the work. I also have only feather blades for this DE.

    My straight razor shave results is a 10.00. The EJ89BA with feathers is a 9.3. The difference in shave is that with the straight razor, the shave is so close that it gives me another 8-12 hours of a great looking shave than the DE. The DE give a very good shave, but its just not as "smooth" as the straight razor shave in the late afternoon

    For me, there is no substitute for a sharp hefty blade on the skin and using variable angles to achieve a close shave. However, there are occasions that I need to back off that close of a shave and the E89A hits the spot and is the perfect tool.

    It takes the same time to shave with each one and they both shave the same areas very well. Keep in mind that I had been using straight razors for a few years before picking up this DE so I knew how to get all the "tough" sports with the straight razors first, thus using the DE was seamless after the first shave.

    I like the EJ89BA alot and found it to be a handy shaver that provides a little variety in the shave routine. Royal Shave sold me this and I had it at my door in 3 days from ordering it on a Sunday night.

    Have fun as there are a lot of choices out there!

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    Although I haven't tried it yet, I understand that the new Muhle r41 is supposed to be very "straight razor" like, at least in the blade angle and exposure to the skin.

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    I would skip the DE and go SE (single edge razor ) they shave closer and is much like a straight shave. Schick injectors come to mind as the best SE's I've tried. You can buy the yellow packs of blades on Amazon.

    the Schick E type is my favorite.

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    I Would say the Gillette fatboy butterfly (Silver Plated) (adjustable) is quite good, but that one i inherited after my dead grandfather so its in a frame now, but bought Merkur Progress (Polished Chrome) (adjustable), Parker 22R (Gunmet) and Merkur Futur 700 (Gold) (adjustable), and would say the razor that scares me the least is the Merkur Futur 700 and it shaves d*** good. Cause the Parker 22R was making mad noises while shaving/didnt like the noise of the shave and the Merkur Progress i felt the top wasent far enough out on the razor blade. So if u get it stuck somewhere u can do real damage because the blade can move more. Im still waiting for Merkur to get some more Merkur Vision 2000 out on the market but got info that they had back-orders to 2010 from companies, and they cant keep up it looks like. But also got msg from the place that i bought my DE razors that he had had alot of complaints on them/Vision 2000. But should i use a used DE razor it would be Gillette Fatboy butterfly (adjustable), And new i would go for Merkur Futur 700 with Derby blades not feather, feather was to sharp/much for me. Hope it helps.

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    I've been De shaving for 18 months now and straight shaving for about a month. My DE still gives me a closer shave but that's probably just down to my technique with a straight. I'm at the point of giving up (again!) on straights as the results are so hit and miss. I've tried most DEs from Fatboys, slim adjustables, red tips, rockets to the modern DE89, Meuhle 41 etc. The only one I've kept and use every day is a Mergress, basically a pimped Merkur Progress adjustable. I went through a load of different blades and only recently found that a Shark stainless steel blade from egypt worked best for me. With a De you can vary the angle to suit yourself. I find it more manoeuvrable and shaving against the grain on tough stubble under my chin is a breeze with the DE compared to the patchy results with a straight. I love the whole straight shaving idea but it just doesn't work for me. At least with a DE I still get the prep, brush and soap experience. As with everything it's trial and error to find what suits you as far as DE and blade combo goes. I really wish I hadn't just watched that SE video as I'm now tempted..........

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    I looked at some DE/SR shaving vidz in the beginning, and see most ppl do 3 passes with it, i think the reason why you have problem with SR shaving is hesitating, maybe the blade aint so sharpe and also you havent learned which way you hair goes all over the face (usaly its not a mirror of your your other side), like i have: it goes towards my neck on left side and upwards on my right side. Cause with SR you just need a sharp blade and stretched skin and no hesistating cause thats when it gets you. I Also Would Recommend that you get to test Merkur Futur 700 if youre going to continue with DE shaving only, i was amazed with that DE razor compared to the others i have. What SR do you use and do you hone it yourself or send it out to someone else?

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    I bought a Thiers Issard Le Grelot, Dovo Bismarck, both new that came allegedly shave ready so I sent them to Neil miller of the Strop Shop for honing and also bought a vintage CVH from Neil which he honed so they are all certainly sharp enough. I mapped my face when I started DE shaving so I know what direction my hair is growing in and I made sure I was stretching my skin as I do thet with my DE anyway. I just couldn't get a close enough finish. I'll be selling my straights and Big Daddy strop as it's just not working for me

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    You could always try my favorite DE: the Merkur Futur. It's pricey, and an adjustable, but if you open it all the way up the angle is very close to that of a straight razor (I find that mine works fine for me set on 3.5). It's also very hefty at around 4 oz.

    I've never had any problems with any stroke direction other than ATG passes (with any razor). My skin and ATG passes just do not get along.

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